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Old 08-11-2006, 02:23 AM
ASPoker8 ASPoker8 is offline
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Tournament Info:
$20/2 on Partypoker. 900 entrants. 50 players remain.
Blinds 2000-4000
Average Stack: 52,000
In the Money.

-You (35,000) are dealt J[img]/images/graemlins/spade.gif[/img]-10[img]/images/graemlins/spade.gif[/img] on the button.

-All folds until: CO (115,000) limps in.
-You limp in, leaving you with 31,000 chips.
-SB (50,000) completes.
-BB (50,000) checks

Pot: 16,000
Flop: 8[img]/images/graemlins/diamond.gif[/img]-9[img]/images/graemlins/diamond.gif[/img]-10[img]/images/graemlins/club.gif[/img]

-SB checks.
-BB checks.
-CO bets 4,000
-You _____________________?

Why _____________________?
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Old 08-11-2006, 03:01 AM
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Push preflop.
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Old 08-11-2006, 03:05 AM
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Push preflop.

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i disagree. would call as OP did then shove flop.
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Old 08-11-2006, 03:48 AM
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You really need to rethink your short stack play if you think it's a good idea to limp here.

Pushing preflop maximizes your folding equity, keeps the blinds from seeing the flop or pushing themselves (and their range for pushing should be pretty big), and you're entirely to short to be seeing flops hoping to connect because you don't have implied odds when you do connect.
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Old 08-11-2006, 04:33 AM
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You really need to rethink your short stack play if you think it's a good idea to limp here.

Pushing preflop maximizes your folding equity, keeps the blinds from seeing the flop or pushing themselves (and their range for pushing should be pretty big), and you're entirely to short to be seeing flops hoping to connect because you don't have implied odds when you do connect.

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on a full table vs a limper, even though i ahve position with 50 left, i wouldnt play JTs as a shove with my M above 5. if i was going to play it, i'd limp/shove if i hit with enough M and 7 hands to see befor ei next hit blinds to fold if i dont.
if this was me in the situation. if i didnt have to play the hand, i wouldnt.
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Old 08-11-2006, 05:03 AM
Potte Potte is offline
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I don't think limping is terrible. I don't want to push into the huge CO after he limps. Fold or limp IMO and I'm leaning towards limping. It's only 1/9 of our stack and we have position. I push the flop.
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Old 08-11-2006, 05:10 AM
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DO NOT LIMP PREFLOP IN THIS SPOT.

Push or fold, pretty standard shortstack situation. With a weak play like a CO limp I push this unless CO has been making loose preflop calls and will call a rag ace, KT, etc.

It looks like he wants to see a flop with a big stack and a raggy hand and will fold to pressure. He might decide to make one of those heroic calls with a QJ or K9 if you have been pushing often, so if you have been going maniac all-in all the time recently you might want to fold.

If you make it to the flop with chips left (like you did), easy easy all-in.
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Old 08-11-2006, 06:47 AM
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Limping for over 10% of your stack makes baby Jesus cry. Seriously, you should never be limping this spot. If you think there's a good chance that the limper will fold, then push. If not, then you should probably fold unless he routinely limps 78o or some crap.

As played, I push the flop 10 times out of 10.
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Old 08-11-2006, 09:23 AM
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Limping here is horrible.

Pushing >>> Folding >>> Calling
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Old 08-11-2006, 09:40 AM
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limp is horrible... as played pooooosh the flop
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