QQ PP 40k (109)

Topnoevili · #1 08-10-2006, 07:27 PM

This is very early in the first level of the tourny... no reads or previous history with villan... do i need to bet this flop here?

Party Poker No-Limit Hold'em Tourney, Big Blind is t40 (9 handed) internettexasholdem.com

SB (t2790)
Hero (t3000)
UTG (t2940)
UTG+1 (t3000)
MP1 (t2760)
MP2 (t3100)
MP3 (t2940)
CO (t3180)
Button (t6390)

Preflop: Hero is BB with Q[img]/images/graemlins/heart.gif[/img], Q[img]/images/graemlins/diamond.gif[/img].
1 fold, UTG+1 raises to t125, 6 folds, Hero raises to t310, UTG+1 raises to t620, Hero calls t310.

Flop: (t1260) 6[img]/images/graemlins/club.gif[/img], 3[img]/images/graemlins/diamond.gif[/img], T[img]/images/graemlins/diamond.gif[/img] (2 players)
Hero checks, UTG+1 bets t900

Final Pot: t2160

FGators · #2 08-10-2006, 10:16 PM

You are too short to fold this, IMO. Just push, though you probably are behind. If you were deeper I would advocate leading and folding to a signifcant push from a nit.

Dave D · #3 08-11-2006, 12:15 AM

No reads make this a push on the flop. Hope he doesn't have the two hands that beat you.

Masterplan · #4 08-11-2006, 12:24 AM

i'd fold here tbph. my re-raise being re-raised makes me fairly sure of KK/AK/AA.
i wouldn't have checked the flop though in case he is holding AK and will fold, but after checking, and being bet at. gotta lay it down.

Topnoevili · #5 08-11-2006, 09:38 AM

thanks guys... I pushed and he had the other QQ... I felt I was behind his range but too short to fold here...

any thoughts on the flop check?

seke2 · #6 08-11-2006, 09:55 AM

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thanks guys... I pushed and he had the other QQ... I felt I was behind his range but too short to fold here...

any thoughts on the flop check?

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In any case, I repush preflop. As played, I probably just push the flop, that pot is way too big compared to your stack size to get away. Check/pushing with the expectation that he'll bet anything isn't too bad either, stops him from being able to get away from AK or AQ, but he'll probably also end up with proper odds to chase if he makes a big cbet.

eBo · #7 08-11-2006, 11:27 AM

If his range is JJ+,AK, then you should push on the flop, which is what I would do. However, people usually don't minreraise you with AK, so give him more credit for a pocket pair.

As played, I give him credit for QQ+. He raised from EP, then minreraised, then made a strong cont. bet on the flop. Am I the only one who thinks it's correct to fold on the flop? The guy is trying as hard as possible to tell you that he has a high pocket pair.

I don't understand why people are saying that Hero is too short to fold this. He'll still have ~60BB.