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Old 08-10-2006, 10:28 AM
silencio silencio is offline
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Default Back to basics

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A 60/35 retard raises in the MP. A over aggressive semi retard (something like 40/20) 3-bets in the SB I cap JJ in the BB, both call.

FLOP: Ac2c8h I have the Jc

I bet MP calls SB folds.

Turn: 9C

I bet, call.

River: 3d

What's my play and against which kind of player can you check/fold this.
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Old 08-10-2006, 10:48 AM
Hoi Polloi Hoi Polloi is offline
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Check/call you're getting what 11:1? I think you'll be good more often than that.

Check/fold against players who you have an impeccable read that a bet means an ace or flush, but that's got to be a very strong read. You capped pre-flop, to a weak-ace junky will likely check behind. Most flush chasers will pop the turn. I think it's going to be very hard to find a fold for one bet here.

In fact, a case can be made for bet/folding the turn as you will often get another bet from the smaller pairs and seldom raised by the weak aces and weak flushes.
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Old 08-10-2006, 11:49 AM
Scary_Tiger Scary_Tiger is offline
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If he's a retard he'll bluff a busted flush draw even when the action dictates he absolutely shouldn't. So check/call.

(Oh, and he'll probably value bet smaller pairs for you too.)
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Old 08-10-2006, 12:16 PM
Grisgra Grisgra is offline
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If he's a retard he'll bluff a busted flush draw even when the action dictates he absolutely shouldn't. So check/call.

(Oh, and he'll probably value bet smaller pairs for you too.)

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Because of this I'd consider check/calling the turn and river.
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Old 08-10-2006, 01:12 PM
dangerfish dangerfish is offline
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Default Re: Back to basics

check call the turn and river. without the Jc bet fold the turn. hes probably not calling you with KQ so you dont need to worry as much about giving a free card. you dont want to get raised with the Jc and he might even bet a worse hand or bluff when u check.
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