Gave up +EV or OK?

Bona · #1 08-09-2006, 01:49 PM

This hand is simple and probably elementary to most but I am working on plugging leaks and strengthening my game so I thought I would see if others could steer me straight here. By nature I call this preflop but I am consciously trying to convert as many calls as makes sense to either raise or fold because I think I am too weak tight overall. So when I folded this against my nature I did so thinking I was making progress. Since then I was thinking, " is that just weaker and tighter than ever?"

I have only seen 2 hands of villians to this point they were AJo, called in middle position and ATs called in late position. On very few (35) hands played s/he is 10% VPIP w no preflop raise. I put h/im on TT+ or AQ+ and folded my AJo to the raise. Right? Wrong? Why? Thanks in advance:

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Preflop: Student is Button with A[img]/images/graemlins/diamond.gif[/img], J[img]/images/graemlins/club.gif[/img].
3 folds, MP1 :#A500AF(villian)/ raises, 6 folds.

Final Pot: 1.75 BB

nooob · #2 08-09-2006, 02:01 PM

cold-callin with AJo sucks.

standard.

feroder_zb · #3 08-09-2006, 02:03 PM

Yup, easy fold. If you had a confident read that said AJo was way beyond villain's PF raising range, then you could 3-bet to isolate, but against a 10% VPIP, you don't want any part in this. Good fold.

DrModern · #4 08-09-2006, 02:46 PM

[censored] you guys, I 3-bet this

Scary_Tiger · #5 08-09-2006, 02:48 PM

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[censored] you guys, I 3-bet this and I hate money [img]/images/graemlins/mad.gif[/img]

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This post should be titled "not entering the pot with a hand that is not best and frequently dominated".

DrModern · #6 08-09-2006, 03:00 PM

Yeah, I know. It was a partially a joke. Just for reference:

TT+,AJs+,KQs,AQo+: 69%
AJo: 31%

Who is this villain though? These stats are crazy.

Against a more typical villain (PFR roughly = 10%) we do a lot better though:

88+,ATs+,KTs+,QJs,AJo+,KQo: 58%
AJo: 42%

Do you guys still dump it here?

nooob · #7 08-09-2006, 03:04 PM

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Against a more typical villain (PFR roughly = 10%) we do a lot better though:

88+,ATs+,KTs+,QJs,AJo+,KQo: 58%
AJo: 42%

Do you guys still dump it here?

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yes. i'd 3 bet if he was 40+/16+/.5 or less though.

DrModern · #8 08-09-2006, 03:15 PM

Just because I love to stovz0r, heads-up vs. someone who'll raise the top 16% of his staring hands, you are a coin-flip with AJo.

Marquoz · #9 08-09-2006, 03:16 PM

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Who is this villain though? These stats are crazy.

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Not really. I've folded 35 hands in a row before. It's easy to be card dead for a few orbits.

nooob · #10 08-09-2006, 03:18 PM

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Just because I love to stovz0r, heads-up vs. someone who'll raise the top 16% of his staring hands, you are a coin-flip with AJo.

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i'm not 3 betting because i have the best hand. i'm 3 betting for isolation because i like my chances going HU with position with a 40+/16+/.5 or less villain.