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#1
08-09-2006, 01:19 PM
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11s Top Pair OOP, large field
No converter that I could find works with Full Tilt - please let me know if you found one!
Anyway, here is the hand: $11s right in the beginning. Everyone has about t1,500 Hero posts the small blind of 15 BB posts the big blind of 30 Dealt to Hero [9d Ks] 3 Calls 1 Fold 3 Calls Hero calls 15 BB checks *** FLOP *** [7s 9s 2h] Pot = t240 [OK, so here is the first issue - what do we do here with such a large field and top pair?] Hero bets 180 1 fold UTG+1 calls 180 1 fold MP2 raises to 360 3 Folds [Next question - can we actually fold given the pot odds? We got 1 caller and a raiser, but I think not] Hero calls 180 UTG+1 calls 180 *** TURN *** [7s 9s 2h] [3d] pot = t1,350 Hero checks UTG+1 bets 1,110, and is all in MP2 calls 1,110, and is all in Hero: this hand can't be good Hero folds Results in white: <font color="white"> UTG+1 shows [8d 8s] MP2 shows [9c Qh] *** SUMMARY *** Total pot 3,540 | Rake 0 Board: [7s 9s 2h 3d 4c] </font> Comments on all streets please... 
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#2
08-09-2006, 01:26 PM
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Re: 11s Top Pair OOP, large field
i think either push or fold the flop raise, with a lean towards fold. turn play is pretty standard given kicker and the fact that it's early. applaude your discipline rather than lament the result
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#4
08-09-2006, 01:32 PM
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Re: 11s Top Pair OOP, large field
I fold preflop. I never bother getting involved with TPGK at this stage of the tourney in a pot like this. The players are going to be going crazy and you never know where you stand. I just check/fold most of the time. In a 3-way or headsup pot I will lead out for 2/3 pot and then reevaluate.
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#5
08-09-2006, 01:46 PM
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You cannot fold preflop
OK, I don't understand the two posters who said fold preflop.
Don't you realize that you're getting 15:1 pot odds!!! Remember, we're in the small blind here...
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#6
08-09-2006, 01:51 PM
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Re: You cannot fold preflop
If you're gonna call because of pot odds, then play the flop only when you know you'll win those chips already in the middle. If you're gonna play the hand as you did when you flop TP, then limping will cost you a lot of chips in the long run. The reverse implied odds are HUGE.
If you limp, you'll need at least 2 pair or trip 9s to play the flop with any kind of confidence. Folding preflop relieves you of the temptation to lose a good chunk of your stack. Edit: Not to mention there is a very good chance that there will be one fewer players in the tournament after this hand is over, which is always a plus.
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#7
08-09-2006, 01:56 PM
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Re: You cannot fold preflop
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If you're gonna call because of pot odds, then play the flop only when you know you'll win those chips already in the middle. If you're gonna play the hand as you did when you flop TP, then limping will cost you a lot of chips in the long run. The reverse implied odds are HUGE. If you limp, you'll need at least 2 pair or trip 9s to play the flop with any kind of confidence. Folding preflop relieves you of the temptation to lose a good chunk of your stack. [/ QUOTE ] word.
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#8
08-09-2006, 01:56 PM
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Re: You cannot fold preflop
Yeah, I check/fold the flop (after completing preflop). OOP, TP just isn't good enough.
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