$16-Bubble with AJ and Megastack in the BB

sng-sam · #1 08-09-2006, 12:58 PM

I liked it at the time. SNGPT hates it. That suprised me. Whatcha think. Would you have pushed here without the benefit of the SNGPT stats?

PokerStars Tournament, Big Blind is t200 (4 handed) Converter on pregopoker.com

CO (t1475)
Hero (t1905)
SB (t1655)
BB (t8465)

Preflop: Hero is in Button with J[img]/images/graemlins/club.gif[/img] A[img]/images/graemlins/diamond.gif[/img]
<font color="gray">CO folds</font>, <font color="red">Hero raises to t1905 (All-in)</font>.

Straight Flushes,

SAM

K䲰䮥n · #2 08-09-2006, 01:01 PM

Well I'll be damned...

JuntMonkey · #3 08-09-2006, 01:02 PM

Yea I would have pushed without a second thought. Maybe it's time for me to register SNGPT.

King Car · #4 08-09-2006, 01:11 PM

I figured SNGPT would hate this one. Basically, the wider BB's calling range is the tighter you have to be. Further, your stack is relatively healthy. I think it would probably tell you needed something QQ+ AK+, depending on villain's range.

I'm curious to see what others have to say on if/how value can be extracted from this hand, in this spot, when pushing is -EV.

sofere · #5 08-09-2006, 01:13 PM

That really surprises me given that all of the smaller stacks are even and relatively healthy.

What calling ranges did you put in?

KPL · #6 08-09-2006, 01:14 PM

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SNGPT hates it.

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What calling range are you using?

sc4472 · #7 08-09-2006, 01:16 PM

you are barely less than 10BB's, on the bubble I fold this. this is a change I have made to my game recently, if I have more than 7-8BB's or so I am not pushing into big stack on the bubble, especially if the other 2 have smaller stacks than I do, used to do it all the time though.

btw, this was my first post on 2+2, longtime lurker, and could be completely wrong

King Car · #8 08-09-2006, 01:25 PM

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SNGPT hates it.

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What calling range are you using?

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I'm pretty sure it would be -EV using a calling range of 22+, A5s+, K10+, QJ+.

Basically, your average 16 big stack isnt mucking a pair, suited A, or face cards in this spot enough to make this push +EV.

I might be wrong though. Maybe someone with SNGPT on their desktop can run the numbers against different ranges and see what it spits out.

K䲰䮥n · #9 08-09-2006, 01:39 PM

SB: TT+,AQs+,AKo
BB: 22+,A2s+,A3o+,KTs+,KJo+,QJs

EV Fold, 21,7%, EV Push, 21.7%

sofere · #10 08-09-2006, 01:46 PM

Crap...I guess this hand requires a read. I hate reads.