Two Plus Two Newer Archives  

Go Back   Two Plus Two Newer Archives > Tournament Poker > MTT Strategy
FAQ Community Calendar Today's Posts Search

Reply
 
Thread Tools Display Modes
  #1  
Old 08-08-2006, 03:47 AM
infinite_loop infinite_loop is offline
Senior Member
 
Join Date: Apr 2005
Location: Boise, ID
Posts: 592
Default 22/180 - Easy push?

PokerStars Tournament, Big Blind is t800 with t50 antes (6 handed) Converter on pregopoker.com

UTG (t43570)
UTG+1 (t12267)
CO (t3080)
Button (t2200)
Hero (t7435)
BB (t10730)

Preflop: Hero is in SB with 7[img]/images/graemlins/diamond.gif[/img] 9[img]/images/graemlins/spade.gif[/img]
<font color="gray">UTG folds</font>, <font color="gray">UTG+1 folds</font>, <font color="gray">CO folds</font>, <font color="gray">Button folds</font>

We're 1 or 2 out from the money. My image was pretty solid up until recently, pushing a couple times from LP.

Not much info on BB. He seemed somewhat solid, while the only hand I saw him show was T9s, pushing a shortstack UTG.
Reply With Quote
  #2  
Old 08-08-2006, 04:36 AM
Rocco Rocco is offline
Senior Member
 
Join Date: Jan 2004
Location: Bork, bork, bork...
Posts: 1,747
Default Re: 22/180 - Easy push?

1500 to pick up. I'd push!
Reply With Quote
  #3  
Old 08-08-2006, 07:37 AM
Dan. Dan. is offline
Senior Member
 
Join Date: Aug 2005
Location: The European Phenom
Posts: 3,836
Default Re: 22/180 - Easy push?

[ QUOTE ]
Hero (t7435)
BB (t10730)

[/ QUOTE ]
Hero's stack = 3/4th villian's

[ QUOTE ]
We're 1 or 2 out from the money.

[/ QUOTE ]

Seems like common sense can be your guide. Of course you push.
Reply With Quote
  #4  
Old 08-08-2006, 09:13 AM
Quanah Parker Quanah Parker is offline
Senior Member
 
Join Date: May 2006
Location: Stoc:N2SmokNbears
Posts: 1,762
Default Re: 22/180 - Easy push?

I would not push.
I would raise to 1600 or 2400, and fold if played back at.
..or maybe I just call and play the flop.
Reply With Quote
  #5  
Old 08-08-2006, 09:22 AM
Beachman42 Beachman42 is offline
Senior Member
 
Join Date: Nov 2005
Location: Havana Daydreamin\'
Posts: 1,770
Default Re: 22/180 - Easy push?

[ QUOTE ]
I would not push.
I would raise to 1600 or 2400, and fold if played back at.
..or maybe I just call and play the flop.

[/ QUOTE ]

I don't agree with any of these lines because:

Raising less than AI is allowing BB to call with position or re-raise with a hand that beats us (read Ax). Folding is very weak if we open-raise.

Calling all but guarentees us the worst result - BB raising 95% of the time in position or checking when he holds a monster, STILL in position.

Its push or fold time here. Honestly, I'm leaning more towards folding (without a better posted read) because I can find better spots to steal/re-steal than with any 2 vs. a bigger stack that should call more % of the time than I'm favored. Guys, it isn't ALWAYS correct to push &amp; the criteria for wherher this is push time isn't provided in the post (detailed reads on Hero &amp; villian).

67% fold, 33% push.
Reply With Quote
  #6  
Old 08-08-2006, 09:29 AM
Quanah Parker Quanah Parker is offline
Senior Member
 
Join Date: May 2006
Location: Stoc:N2SmokNbears
Posts: 1,762
Default Re: 22/180 - Easy push?

[ QUOTE ]
[ QUOTE ]
I would not push.
I would raise to 1600 or 2400, and fold if played back at.
..or maybe I just call and play the flop.

[/ QUOTE ]

I don't agree with any of these lines because:

Raising less than AI is allowing BB to call with position or re-raise with a hand that beats us (read Ax). Folding is very weak if we open-raise.

Calling all but guarentees us the worst result - BB raising 95% of the time in position or checking when he holds a monster, STILL in position.

Its push or fold time here. Honestly, I'm leaning more towards folding (without a better posted read) because I can find better spots to steal/re-steal than with any 2 vs. a bigger stack that should call more % of the time than I'm favored. Guys, it isn't ALWAYS correct to push &amp; the criteria for wherher this is push time isn't provided in the post (detailed reads on Hero &amp; villian).

67% fold, 33% push.

[/ QUOTE ]

LOL, you're my favorite kind of opponent.
I like you!
Reply With Quote
  #7  
Old 08-08-2006, 09:43 AM
Imrahil Imrahil is offline
Senior Member
 
Join Date: Feb 2006
Location: Halifax, Nova Scotia, Canada
Posts: 7,500
Default Re: 22/180 - Easy push?

I think pushing is best because the BB doesn't want to be crippled right near the bubble. Pushing has to be +EV.
Reply With Quote
  #8  
Old 08-08-2006, 09:48 AM
seke2 seke2 is offline
Senior Member
 
Join Date: Oct 2005
Posts: 3,885
Default Re: 22/180 - Easy push?

[ QUOTE ]
[ QUOTE ]
[ QUOTE ]
I would not push.
I would raise to 1600 or 2400, and fold if played back at.
..or maybe I just call and play the flop.

[/ QUOTE ]

I don't agree with any of these lines because:

Raising less than AI is allowing BB to call with position or re-raise with a hand that beats us (read Ax). Folding is very weak if we open-raise.

Calling all but guarentees us the worst result - BB raising 95% of the time in position or checking when he holds a monster, STILL in position.

Its push or fold time here. Honestly, I'm leaning more towards folding (without a better posted read) because I can find better spots to steal/re-steal than with any 2 vs. a bigger stack that should call more % of the time than I'm favored. Guys, it isn't ALWAYS correct to push &amp; the criteria for wherher this is push time isn't provided in the post (detailed reads on Hero &amp; villian).

67% fold, 33% push.

[/ QUOTE ]

LOL, you're my favorite kind of opponent.
I like you!

[/ QUOTE ]

And if you're actually willing to open to 1600 or something here, you're my favorite, cause I'm restealing from your ass every day and twice on Sunday.
Reply With Quote
  #9  
Old 08-08-2006, 09:49 AM
seke2 seke2 is offline
Senior Member
 
Join Date: Oct 2005
Posts: 3,885
Default Re: 22/180 - Easy push?

Big blind is 800
Hero has under 10 BB's
This is push/fold poker
This is the bubble, and Villain will only call the push for 3/4 of his stack with a very narrow range

Pushing is highly +EV
Reply With Quote
  #10  
Old 08-08-2006, 09:58 AM
Quanah Parker Quanah Parker is offline
Senior Member
 
Join Date: May 2006
Location: Stoc:N2SmokNbears
Posts: 1,762
Default Re: 22/180 - Easy push?

[ QUOTE ]
[ QUOTE ]
[ QUOTE ]
[ QUOTE ]
I would not push.
I would raise to 1600 or 2400, and fold if played back at.
..or maybe I just call and play the flop.

[/ QUOTE ]

I don't agree with any of these lines because:

Raising less than AI is allowing BB to call with position or re-raise with a hand that beats us (read Ax). Folding is very weak if we open-raise.

Calling all but guarentees us the worst result - BB raising 95% of the time in position or checking when he holds a monster, STILL in position.

Its push or fold time here. Honestly, I'm leaning more towards folding (without a better posted read) because I can find better spots to steal/re-steal than with any 2 vs. a bigger stack that should call more % of the time than I'm favored. Guys, it isn't ALWAYS correct to push &amp; the criteria for wherher this is push time isn't provided in the post (detailed reads on Hero &amp; villian).

67% fold, 33% push.

[/ QUOTE ]

LOL, you're my favorite kind of opponent.
I like you!

[/ QUOTE ]

And if you're actually willing to open to 1600 or something here, you're my favorite, cause I'm restealing from your ass every day and twice on Sunday.

[/ QUOTE ]

This is great. Seems to me like everybody is scared of the big bad blind having ESP, and reraising everytime. Well, I ain't fraid of the dark. Y'all keep on pushing, it's easier that way. I understand. You have my sympathy.
Reply With Quote
Reply


Posting Rules
You may not post new threads
You may not post replies
You may not post attachments
You may not edit your posts

BB code is On
Smilies are On
[IMG] code is On
HTML code is Off

Forum Jump


All times are GMT -4. The time now is 11:56 PM.


Powered by vBulletin® Version 3.8.11
Copyright ©2000 - 2024, vBulletin Solutions Inc.