Correct application of WA/WB sauce?

[five]

My first hand at the table. Villain is unknown.

2/4 6 max

A [img]/images/graemlins/heart.gif[/img] J [img]/images/graemlins/diamond.gif[/img]
2 folds, CO raises, folded to hero who 3 bets, CO caps.

Flop: A [img]/images/graemlins/diamond.gif[/img]A [img]/images/graemlins/spade.gif[/img]4 [img]/images/graemlins/diamond.gif[/img] (8 SB)
Hero applies WA/WB sauce liberally, villain bets, hero calls.

Turn: 7 [img]/images/graemlins/spade.gif[/img]
Hero checks, villain bets, hero calls.

River 5 [img]/images/graemlins/diamond.gif[/img]
Hero bets, intending to call...

Standard?

[jrz1972]

Standard. You're still going to end up spewing a bit against AK because that hand is likely to raise the river when you bet, and you'll have to pay off, but the main thing is that you don't give KK/QQ/JJ/TT an easy fold.

[ILOVEPOKER929]

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Standard. You're still going to end up spewing a bit against AK because that hand is likely to raise the river when you bet, and you'll have to pay off, but the main thing is that you don't give KK/QQ/JJ/TT an easy fold.

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Nobody folds those hands on this board, I look to put more money in somewhere earlier in this hand. If the villain will cap with TT-AA,AQ and AK, the hero is a 21-8 favorite, which means I would have to be very convinced the villain is capable of folding pocket pairs here in order to take a WA/WB line. Most of the time I am convinced of the exact opposite.

[Oracle]

I'm check-raising the turn.

[pokergrader]

I like it. CRing the turn lets TT-KK off too easy and lets AK and AQ punish you.

You would need a read that villian caps lightly PF and takes most hands to showdown to CR the turn.

You have a very strong hand but against his range you are very much WA/WB.

[mihain]

What about betting the flop and the turn? Not a flop to lay down a kk, qq from your opp.

If i know your game i would check my pocket pair on the turn

[Buckmulligan]

I don't like wa/wb so much with the two aces out there. There's a raise to be found on the flop or the turn (I like the turn) versus his hand range. JJ-KK will never find folds here.

[Dazarath]

I hate it. If the villain is so weak/tight that he will fold KK- on an Axx flop, then I hope you're raising any two cards everytime he caps and an ace flops.

[five]

If you raised the turn, what do you do if 3bet? I don't know if I like a line that involves folding against an unknown, but I do agree that it is not a straightforward WA/WB scenario, since the aces out there reduce the combinations of big aces that he can hold.

[YouKnobber]

I agree that people do have a hard time folding to a turn CR, but I think there will be a few folds from TAGs with TT and maybe JJ some of the time, given your 3bet pre flop.

I think I prefer a flop check raise. Nobody is ever folding to that because it stinks so much of a lame, low cost, bluff attempt.