thin, read depenedent bubble call on big POT

[ssnyc]

Villand has been very aggressive and taken down some POTs with bets and no showdown. I usually wilt here but really felt he was buying it and did not see how the turn helped in. Any thoughts on the line?

PokerStars No-Limit Hold'em Tourney, Big Blind is t150 (4 handed)

SB (t3460)
BB (t4360)
Hero (t3430)
Button (t2250)

Preflop: Hero is UTG with QH AC
Hero raises to t450
2 folds
BB calls t300.

Flop(t975) 5S 9H 2H (2 players)
BB checks
Hero bets t750
BB calls t750.

Turn: (t2475) 2C (2 players)
BB bets t3160 (All-In)
Hero calls t2230 (All-In).

River (t7865) QD

Final Pot: t7865

[sofere]

Don'y let pride get in the way of making a proper lay down. Not only do you have bubkus, but you also have a good stack and your on the bubble. He could be "buying it" with pocket 3s. It still beats you.

Also, raise less on the flop. You accomplish the same thing with a bet of 450-500 as you do with a bet of 750.

[Lego05]

I'd say raise less pre-flop. I usually make it 400. If you make it 400 bet less on the flop...like 450-525. If you made it 450 pre-flop bet less on the flop.....like 500-575. This is something that I did't do when I first started playing, but you should bet the smallest amount that will get the job done. This is pot control so that when something like this does happen you can fold and have lost the least number of chips possible.


Although I do kinda agree with you and don't think the turn helped him. In fact I kinda think he has a flush draw, but he could have a mid pair or whatever else too and do you really want to call here with A high when you still have a good number of chips left.

[ssnyc]

Thanks for the input...the toughts about the pre flop raise definitely help. Turns out that Lego was right...he had K 7 heats and I took it down. I usually would lay that down but I I just had a feel after watching his play for a while...worked out there but I' not sure if I should be making feel decisions at that stage or for that size POTs.

[Limesparks]

I'm inclined to check behind against this player on this flop. You've still got a healthy stack, and he's not really likely to go away to a c-bet. If you do bet, 450-500 accomplishes the same thing and saves you some chips when this guy inevitably comes over the top.

I fold the turn, this could be anything, a small PP, a five, even a semi-bluff with a flush draw isn't great to see when you call, since you're less than 2-1 to win. I just hate calling off a decent stack on the bubble with Ace-high.

[Lego05]

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I'm inclined to check behind against this player on this flop. You've still got a healthy stack, and he's not really likely to go away to a c-bet.

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Why do you think he's not very likely to go away to a c-bet?

[ssnyc]

we have been sparring a lot in the round so he may not have respected a medium sized c bet

[Limesparks]

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I'm inclined to check behind against this player on this flop. You've still got a healthy stack, and he's not really likely to go away to a c-bet.

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Why do you think he's not very likely to go away to a c-bet?

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The villain is hyper-aggressive? I'd be much happier to c-bet into someone who hasn't been making big plays, and if he's decent he has to see that this flop hasn't connected with a lot of hands we likely hold.

[Iwineverypot]

This looks wayyyyy too much like a flush draw to me, with your read I probably am calling here.

[ssnyc]

villan was not hyper aggressive but at the same time would always bet hard into weakness