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08-06-2006, 09:02 AM
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Ruling on home game hi-lo game (no qualification)
There are a bunch of games in our dealer's choice cycle at a home game that are played hi-lo cards speak. In a bunch of them someone only has 5 cards and since there is no qualification people can end up with similar type of hands. Everyone we play with agrees that (non-flush) AQJT9 is both a better low and a better high than (non-flush) K5432 (I.e., A can be low for the low hand but high for the high hand). The question that comes up is about hands with pairs/trips/2pair/full houses where one of the pairs/trips are A's. I.e., if the AQJT9 scoops the K5432 does the AAQJT scoop the KK432 with pair of Aces being the best pair for low and the best pair for high? Similarly does AAAKK beat QQQJJ for high and for low or just for high?
I think the only regular casino type game where this could come up on is 7 card stud hi-lo no qualify but even there with 7 cards it is doubtful that this comes up that often. 
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08-06-2006, 11:24 AM
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Re: Ruling on home game hi-lo game (no qualification)
Most books don't give rules for hi/low without an 8-qualifier any more (and this situation is probably why- too many fights trying to explain why AAAKK is the lowest full house AND highest full house).
In "Cooke's Rules of Real Poker" he states that Aces can be high or low, so here the AA hand scoops. This would apply to Omaha hi-low and Stud h-low when the house doesn't require a qualifier for low. Best I could do. I would suggest that you convince the group to add the /8 designation- split-pot games with no qualifier make high-only hands WAY too weak... and I wouldn't want to waste the energy explaining 111KK vs QQQJJ and AAAKK vs the same QQQJJ
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08-07-2006, 10:04 AM
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Re: Ruling on home game hi-lo game (no qualification)
What you need to determine is if you are playing 2-7 low or A-5 low. If you are playing A-5, then the A is low for low hand and High for High hand, but straights and flushes don't count against you for the low.
With 2-7 low, A's are always high, but straights and flushes count against you for low. Playing a combination (ie: A is low for low and high for high, but straights count against you for low) is a good way to confuse the issue. So, make that decision and the issue is resolved.
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