check or bet this river

madscratch · #1 08-04-2006, 10:14 PM

Villain is loose passive. Comments on all streets welcome, but I'm mostly concerned about the river. I've been getting raised a lot on the river so I've been reverting to checking lots of these - wrongly I think. Thoughts on betting / folding vs. check / calling this?

Thanks

Party Poker 2/4 Hold'em (5 handed) Hand History Converter Tool from FlopTurnRiver.com (Format: FlopTurnRiver)

Preflop: Hero is BB with 6

, 2

.
UTG calls, MP calls, Button calls, SB completes, Hero checks.

Flop: (5 SB) 2

, 6

, 4

[color=#0000FF](5 players)
SB checks, [color=#CC3333]Hero bets, UTG folds, MP calls, Button calls, SB folds.

Turn: (4 BB) K

[color=#0000FF](3 players)
[color=#CC3333]Hero bets, MP folds, Button calls.

River: (6 BB) 5

[color=#0000FF](2 players)
Hero checks, [color=#CC3333]Button bets, Hero calls.

Final Pot: 8 BB

sharpie · #2 08-04-2006, 10:18 PM

Against a loose passive I'd bet/fold the river.

lank4ever · #3 08-04-2006, 10:37 PM

That's a pretty bad check. All 4s,2s,6s, and 5s that call your bet will check behind.

If he's loose and passive enough to call a 3 to the river he's loose and passive enough to call a 5 which will call a bet but probably not bet.

However, it would be a hard bet/fold for me to make without having seen him play. I'd probably invent enough combinations of 45 and 25 that raise the river to call getting 9 to 1.

Oracle · #4 08-04-2006, 11:22 PM

I'm b/fing against a passive and b/cing against pretty much everyone else. I check and fold the 5 [img]/images/graemlins/club.gif[/img] against most opponents though.

Oracle · #5 08-04-2006, 11:22 PM

I'm b/fing against a passive and b/cing against pretty much everyone else. I check and fold the 5 [img]/images/graemlins/club.gif[/img] against most opponents though.

camerondiggs · #6 08-04-2006, 11:30 PM

No idea why you are checking this river on this board. Its about as nonthreatening as you get.

unless some jackass has a 3

madscratch · #7 08-04-2006, 11:57 PM

Yeah, I agree. I completely wussed out. I think it's a clear betting situation.

forshure · #8 08-05-2006, 12:41 AM

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I check and fold the 5 [img]/images/graemlins/club.gif[/img] against most opponents though.

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c/fing any river sucks.

Oracle · #9 08-05-2006, 12:47 AM

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I check and fold the 5 [img]/images/graemlins/club.gif[/img] against most opponents though.

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c/fing any river sucks.

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With this action, I don't think so. The passivity of the opponents in this hand increases the chances they are drawing. Even then I think there is a very small chance they would bet a worse hand if checked to on a river 5 [img]/images/graemlins/club.gif[/img]. Remember it looks just as scary to them as it does to us.