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Old 08-03-2006, 07:36 PM
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Default WSOP ME Day 1 Pocket Jacks

One more hand I would like to share. It's Day 1 and I have
around t50000. This will be the last hand of the night perhaps one more. It's 3:25 in the AM and I'm delirious from fatigue and exhaustion.

UTG loose inexperienced player with a slightly smaller stack than me raises to t1200. Blinds are 250/500/50.
I have pocket Jacks in the hijack.

What, all things considering, is my best course of action?
Consider also if I reraise initial raiser may come over the top. He had previously won a gigantic pot with King high when he called a huge turn raise with a gutshot and two overs when a player made a play with a flush draw.

Bruce
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Old 08-03-2006, 07:39 PM
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Default Re: WSOP ME Day 1 Pocket Jacks

I just call. I don't really want to re-raise an UTG with JJ. Hopefully you can spike a jack on the flop and bust him with KK or AA.
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Old 08-03-2006, 07:46 PM
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Default Re: WSOP ME Day 1 Pocket Jacks

I think you have to see the flop as cheaply as possible, and hope the button and blinds just call with you.
If you don't flop a set, OR the flop is T high and lower and
NOT coordinated, make a play for the pot. Especially with
UTG's previous play.

I was reading Todd Arnold's WSOP blog, and he
bullet folded JJ to a raise and a re-raise.
Flop came a J, but he knows he made the right play.
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Old 08-03-2006, 07:51 PM
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Default Re: WSOP ME Day 1 Pocket Jacks

You have to raise to isolate because the blinds are going to be be getting substantial pot odds (something all the players understand) if you just call.

You want to build the pot if villain is going to incorrectly chase hands.
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Old 08-03-2006, 07:55 PM
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Default Re: WSOP ME Day 1 Pocket Jacks

If this was the SB or BB, im calling here to play a smaller pot OOP.
In the HJ i'm re-raising my JJ every time.

This achieves a number of objectives.

It helps us collect some very useful information from villain regarding hand ranges and response to a reraise.
We could possibly take the pot down there.
It avoids giving the blinds the odds to call with marginal hands.
It allows us to play for a larger pot in position with a made hand.

My course of action would be to reraise to ~t3500-4000 and if called, evaluate based on the flop and c-bet 5000-6000 if checked to.
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Old 08-03-2006, 08:19 PM
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Default Re: WSOP ME Day 1 Pocket Jacks

Reraise to isolate the donk and play poker from there. You have a good hand in position versus him and a nice stack to manuever with.
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Old 08-03-2006, 08:45 PM
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Stinks to consider the time and everything but I just call and see the flop. IT would be disastrous to get caught up in a huge pot and losing a ton of chips after playing all day.
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Old 08-03-2006, 08:48 PM
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Default Re: WSOP ME Day 1 Pocket Jacks

raise to 4000
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Old 08-03-2006, 08:51 PM
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Default Re: WSOP ME Day 1 Pocket Jacks

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Stinks to consider the time and everything but I just call and see the flop. IT would be disastrous to get caught up in a huge pot and losing a ton of chips after playing all day.

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Also, I have to remove this way of thinking from my poker playing.
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Old 08-03-2006, 08:57 PM
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Default Re: WSOP ME Day 1 Pocket Jacks

Is everyone really considering flat calling a baby raise with JJ with ~100b??

I'd make it around around 3.5k and see how he likes his hand (if he rrs or not). We aren't putting him squarly on QQ+ are we?
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