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Old 08-02-2006, 03:07 PM
duckman duckman is offline
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Default 3 street bluff?

Villain is LPP with a went to showdown % =30% over 30 hands
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Preflop: Hero is SB with 7[img]/images/graemlins/spade.gif[/img], 6[img]/images/graemlins/club.gif[/img].
<font color="#666666">1 fold</font>, MP calls, <font color="#666666">1 fold</font>, Hero completes, BB checks.

Flop: (3 SB) 4[img]/images/graemlins/spade.gif[/img], 5[img]/images/graemlins/diamond.gif[/img], 2[img]/images/graemlins/spade.gif[/img] <font color="#0000FF">(3 players)</font>
<font color="#CC3333">Hero bets</font>, BB folds, MP calls.

Turn: (2.50 BB) T[img]/images/graemlins/spade.gif[/img] <font color="#0000FF">(2 players)</font>
<font color="#CC3333">Hero bets</font>, MP calls.

River: (4.50 BB) A[img]/images/graemlins/club.gif[/img] <font color="#0000FF">(2 players)</font>
<font color="#CC3333">Hero ???</font>
Do I fire the third barrel or give up?
Anybody not complete with 76o here?
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Old 08-02-2006, 03:13 PM
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Default Re: 3 street bluff?

i think the A is a bad card to continue your bluff. also, don't trust WTSD too much over 30 hands.
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Old 08-02-2006, 03:24 PM
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Default Re: 3 street bluff?

Easy c/f for me. Pot is only 4.5 BB and in my experience villian will either (1) have an ace or (2) call with a hand that beats us too many times to make the river bet profitable.
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Old 08-02-2006, 03:45 PM
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Default Re: 3 street bluff?

I like it. But I wouldn't have bet the turn versus most LPP.
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Old 08-02-2006, 03:52 PM
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Default Re: 3 street bluff?

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call with a hand that beats us too many times to make the river bet profitable.

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You mean better than 7-high?

Seriously, you need a real read to try pure bluffs against opponents at this level. 30 hands is such a laughable sample for WtSD (even more so than every other stat) that I don't know why you included it other than an attempt to justify your poor play.
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Old 08-02-2006, 04:12 PM
allaboutmyfetti allaboutmyfetti is offline
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call with a hand that beats us too many times to make the river bet profitable.

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You mean better than 7-high?

Seriously, you need a real read to try pure bluffs against opponents at this level. 30 hands is such a laughable sample for WtSD (even more so than every other stat) that I don't know why you included it other than an attempt to justify your poor play.

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Uh ... yeah. I shoulda just said "villian will call too many times to make this profitable".
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Old 08-02-2006, 06:28 PM
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Default Re: 3 street bluff?

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call with a hand that beats us too many times to make the river bet profitable.

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You mean better than 7-high?

Seriously, you need a real read to try pure bluffs against opponents at this level. 30 hands is such a laughable sample for WtSD (even more so than every other stat) that I don't know why you included it other than an attempt to justify your poor play.

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How many hands does it take for went to showdown to converge?
I guess what your saying is that LPP doesn't miss the board with K or Q high often enough to warrant a bet here, ie LPP called down with something this far and doesn't have KJ or some other not hit combo enough to warrant a bluff attempt at the river?.

If that's the case should I have just taken the free card on the turn?
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Old 08-02-2006, 07:02 PM
Erik W Erik W is offline
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Default Re: 3 street bluff?

Easy bet.

Don't bet turn.
Any spade will call there anyway.
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