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Old 08-02-2006, 01:46 AM
tminus tminus is offline
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Default QQ on a draw-heavy board

villian is loose passive. i put him on a flush-draw when he reraised me. figured i had the Q so he could only beat me with As or Ks if another one falls.

with such a wide range i felt it would be tight to put him on trips or AK

anyone folding to his small flop-reraise?

Party Poker No-Limit Hold'em, $ BB (6 handed) CP hand converter

saw flop|<font color="#C00000">saw showdown</font>

UTG ($38.67)
<font color="#C00000">Hero ($25.25)</font>
<font color="#C00000">CO ($30.10)</font>
Button ($55.56)
SB ($49.60)
BB ($9.40)

Preflop: Hero is MP with Q[img]/images/graemlins/spade.gif[/img], Q[img]/images/graemlins/club.gif[/img]. SB posts a blind of $0.10.
UTG calls $0.25, <font color="#CC3333">Hero raises to $1.25</font>, CO calls $1.25, <font color="#666666">3 folds</font>, UTG folds.

Flop: ($3.10) 2[img]/images/graemlins/spade.gif[/img], 4[img]/images/graemlins/spade.gif[/img], J[img]/images/graemlins/heart.gif[/img] <font color="#0000FF">(2 players)</font>
<font color="#CC3333">Hero bets $2</font>, <font color="#CC3333">CO raises to $4</font>, Hero calls $2.

Turn: ($11.10) 9[img]/images/graemlins/spade.gif[/img] <font color="#0000FF">(2 players)</font>, Hero bets $10, Villian raises to $20, Hero pushes
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Old 08-02-2006, 02:29 AM
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Default Re: QQ on a draw-heavy board

PF: Standard

Flop: I might just reraise him to $12 here and get him to define his hand a little more.

Turn: He's minraised you twice now- this is usually the sign of A. a donk and/or B. someone who wants to get more money in the pot, and isn't afraid of pricing you in. With this much of your stack in the pot already, you're in a tough spot. It's late and I'm too tired to do the math, but intuitively I think you are getting the right odds to call and hit your flush.

Unless of course villain has A[img]/images/graemlins/spade.gif[/img]K[img]/images/graemlins/spade.gif[/img]
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Old 08-02-2006, 02:39 AM
SubaruSTiMike SubaruSTiMike is offline
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Default Re: QQ on a draw-heavy board

On the flop, I'd raise more, probably pot, theres draws out. His miniraise is weak, liek you said probably a flush draw, so I'd probably reraise him to like 10. Turn is good, but dern that spade. How much does villain have after the 20?
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Old 08-02-2006, 02:40 AM
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Default Re: QQ on a draw-heavy board

i stopped reading when u didnt rr flop
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Old 08-02-2006, 10:18 PM
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Default Re: QQ on a draw-heavy board

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i stopped reading when u didnt rr flop

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villian is very loose-passive.

reraising the flop will not stop him from drawing, it will only bloat the pot
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Old 08-02-2006, 10:44 PM
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Default Re: QQ on a draw-heavy board

Please pop him back on the flop charge him more for his flush draw he might even have aj or something you have crushed.
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Old 08-02-2006, 10:48 PM
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Default Re: QQ on a draw-heavy board

Too weak tight
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Old 08-02-2006, 10:53 PM
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Default Re: QQ on a draw-heavy board

this is top pair getting reraised, why would i build a pot with such a mediocre hand?
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Old 08-03-2006, 02:53 AM
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Default Re: QQ on a draw-heavy board

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villian is very loose-passive.


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OK- So what would a passive player need to have to be raising you on the turn like that?
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Old 08-03-2006, 03:12 AM
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Default Re: QQ on a draw-heavy board

ok, where to start...

LPPs arent raising FDs for starters. If he is really passive i dont mind 3betting the flop and folding to a push.

As played on the flop, id check this turn, there was just a thread about what to do in this siutation though.
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