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Old 08-01-2006, 11:23 PM
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Default Cap the flop with flush draw + gutshot?

I felt like I was spewing on the flop, but I reallllly wanted AX to think he was up against a 9 and fold, bad idea?

SB is very tight (6% VPIP) and pretty aggressive, so I don't think he has a 9 unless it's A9s. All pocket pairs are possible, except AA-QQ which he'd probably reraise with preflop.

MP1 is a TAG, 20/15/4, so big cards as well as pairs are possible, but leaning more towards big pairs.

So, does this flop look ok? What do I do if I pair a T or J on the turn?
Party Poker 3/6 Hold'em (9 handed) internettexasholdem.com

Preflop: Hero is UTG with T[img]/images/graemlins/club.gif[/img], J[img]/images/graemlins/club.gif[/img]. CO posts a blind of $3.
Hero calls, <font color="#666666">1 fold</font>, <font color="#CC3333">MP1 raises</font>, <font color="#666666">4 folds</font>, SB calls, <font color="#666666">1 fold</font>, Hero calls.

Flop: (8 SB) 9[img]/images/graemlins/diamond.gif[/img], 7[img]/images/graemlins/club.gif[/img], 9[img]/images/graemlins/club.gif[/img] <font color="#0000FF">(3 players)</font>
<font color="#CC3333">SB bets</font>, <font color="#CC3333">Hero raises</font>, <font color="#CC3333">MP1 3-bets</font>, SB calls, <font color="#CC3333">Hero caps ????</font>
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Old 08-01-2006, 11:28 PM
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Default Re: Cap the flop with flush draw + gutshot?

your UTG limp is pretty optimistic at the average 3/6 table.

don't raise the flop. J-high is not the best hand, so why pay to draw?

also, why would you want Ax to fold?
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Old 08-01-2006, 11:28 PM
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Default Re: Cap the flop with flush draw + gutshot?

Looks goot. Unlikely someone has 77. You are pumping this flop for value &amp; not to fold out anyone really. This is probably the only time MP3 will pay you a lot with his overpair. Your overcard outs aren't worth anything.

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Old 08-01-2006, 11:35 PM
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Default Re: Cap the flop with flush draw + gutshot?

Hm. Paired board, only two villians, closing the action with a strong (but by no means invincible) flush. I think this is more of a call than a cap, considering all of these things combined. I don't think you have enough FE to matter here- SB may consider dumping it but MP1 seems to reaaaaally like his hand and probably isn't going anywhere.

MP1 could have a big pair with a [img]/images/graemlins/club.gif[/img] which also knocks your equity down a notch.
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Old 08-01-2006, 11:46 PM
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Default Re: Cap the flop with flush draw + gutshot?

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also, why would you want Ax to fold?

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I made it a big X [img]/images/graemlins/smile.gif[/img] I want AT-AK to fold.

Yes, UTG limp was dicey, but the table had been playing loose-passive postflop and I figured more often than not I'd be seeing it multiway.
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Old 08-01-2006, 11:58 PM
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Default Re: Cap the flop with flush draw + gutshot?

SB has J-high beat, so you don't want AT-AK to fold. you want him to pay you when you hit the A[img]/images/graemlins/club.gif[/img] on the turn.
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Old 08-02-2006, 12:03 AM
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Default Re: Cap the flop with flush draw + gutshot?

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SB has J-high beat, so you don't want AT-AK to fold. you want him to pay you when you hit the A[img]/images/graemlins/club.gif[/img] on the turn.

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ok if we're not raising the flop, do we toss in another bet if MP1 &amp; her overpair raise?
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Old 08-02-2006, 12:45 AM
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Default Re: Cap the flop with flush draw + gutshot?

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ok if we're not raising the flop, do we toss in another bet if MP1 &amp; her overpair raise?

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yeah, this sounds good.

as played, i like OP's cap for the same reason.

but don't raise the first time.
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Old 08-02-2006, 02:54 PM
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Default THE TURN

Rest of flop action:

Hero caps, MP1 folds?????, SB calls

Turn (9.5BB): T [img]/images/graemlins/diamond.gif[/img]
SB checks, Hero???
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Old 08-02-2006, 03:08 PM
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awesome. Bet.
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