66 hand - Standard or BBV material?

kapw7 · #1 07-31-2006, 06:37 PM

I wonder how you guys would play this hand. Villains are both very loose pre and post but not too passive post flop. Typical donks. (God bless them). So:

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Preflop: Hero is BB with 6[img]/images/graemlins/spade.gif[/img], 6[img]/images/graemlins/club.gif[/img].
2 folds, Button calls, SB completes, Hero raises, Button calls, SB calls.

Flop: (6 SB) 7[img]/images/graemlins/club.gif[/img], 3[img]/images/graemlins/club.gif[/img], 9[img]/images/graemlins/diamond.gif[/img] (3 players)
SB checks, Hero bets, Button calls, SB calls.

Turn: (4.50 BB) 2[img]/images/graemlins/heart.gif[/img] (3 players)
SB checks, Hero bets, Button calls, SB calls.

River: (7.50 BB) 5[img]/images/graemlins/heart.gif[/img] (3 players)
SB checks, Hero bets

Bob Sacamano · #2 07-31-2006, 06:46 PM

I'd check the river and probably fold.

sharpie · #3 07-31-2006, 06:48 PM

I'd check and wouldn't overcall.

Bob Sacamano · #4 07-31-2006, 06:50 PM

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Misread the order somehow. I think this is a good line, but yes calling is good imo if SB folds.

kapw7 · #5 08-01-2006, 08:08 AM

I felt that checking the river would cost me, since these guys will easily call with as low as A-hi and maybe worse for example when SB acts after a button fold. I think in general in 3-way pots, not in position, against this sort of players you should bet all the way until someone shows resistance. However I agree that for the specific hand in question, my value bet is marginal.

In the hand they both called. SB had 85o and button had A5o.

RunDownHouse · #6 08-01-2006, 08:13 AM

Meh. I don't see how anyone - including you - is supposed to know that at least one of these guys is going to call a river bet with K4o, especially when passive tendencies increase the likelihood of a 7x calling down.

MATT111 · #7 08-01-2006, 08:13 AM

I like it all over. Hu I would c/c.

True · #8 08-01-2006, 08:15 AM

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Meh. I don't see how anyone - including you - is supposed to know that at least one of these guys is going to call a river bet with K4o, especially when passive tendencies increase the likelihood of a 7x calling down.

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your post makes no sense.

I think this hand is fine, if we were button however I would check this river against 2.

True

RunDownHouse · #9 08-01-2006, 08:31 AM

What on earth doesn't make sense? On the river, Hero is either betting for value or betting as a bluff. There's no in-between. Here, he's against two loose-passive opponents who have called down to the river, and he's got third pair. What the [censored] is going to call his river bet? K4o? K5o?

I think that hoping that both opponents are drawing, AND that the river doesn't complete their draw, AND that they'll call a river bet with a busted draw (K-high) is way hopeful. Even more wacky is hoping that button will fold a better hand and the other guy will do whatever.

I'm so curious as to what worse hands you guys think will call a river bet.

Scary_Tiger · #10 08-01-2006, 08:36 AM

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I don't think the river bet has value.