ME Hand KQo UTG

locutus2002 · #1 07-31-2006, 03:52 AM

Blinds 200/400/50

Hero has 12K villain covers- avg stack is 22K. Hero has just been moved to the table, its 75 minutes from the end of day 1. I have won two uncontested pots BTF in the last orbit. I was also relieved to have been moved to a table where the players with the chips were active, as well as the fact that I have been all-in 5 times at my previous table and my credibility was slightly damaged.

Hero opens T1400 UTG w/ KQo
Villain calls MP2

Flop (T3900) J66 rainbow

Hero bets T2200, villain calls.

Turn (T8300) J664 two spades

Hero pushes for 8K?!

stevepa · #2 07-31-2006, 04:02 AM

I check fold the flop here almost always. I think most of the value of cbetting this flop is that when called you can shove the turn and get a lot of 1 pair hands to fold...so I think the turn is fairly standard given the flop cbet.

Steve

DonT77 · #3 07-31-2006, 04:03 AM

What range do you put villian on after he called your flop bet? You might get him to fold 77-TT/KQ+, but I think AJ,JJ-AA calls a PSB here. 8K is still a workable stack. I probably C-F here.

Also, you say villian covers - but by how much, barely or is he only calling off 25% of his stack? You might get a call from a middle PP if he has a good stack and if he perceives your bet as trying to push him out of the pot with a worse hand.

stevepa · #4 07-31-2006, 04:07 AM

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What range do you put villian on after he called your flop bet? You might get him to fold 77-TT/KQ+, but I think AJ,JJ-AA calls a PSB here. 8K is still a workable stack. I probably C-F here.

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I alluded to this in my first post, but I think the flop cbet is pretty awful unless you're pushing the turn when he just calls the flop.

Steve

locutus2002 · #5 07-31-2006, 04:23 AM

Villain has 20K, I don't expect him to fold a pair.

stevepa · #6 07-31-2006, 07:44 PM

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Villain has 20K, I don't expect him to fold a pair.

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Then I definitely check-fold the flop.

Steve

betgo · #7 07-31-2006, 08:12 PM

Without reading the post, fold preflop. This is a trouble hand that does not play well from early position.

0evg0 · #8 07-31-2006, 08:13 PM

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Without reading the post, fold preflop. This is a trouble hand that does not play well from early position.

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Without reading the poster, this is betgo. He plays tighter than I would if I were on the bubble and ITM was equivalent to me not dying.

betgo · #9 07-31-2006, 08:18 PM

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Without reading the post, fold preflop. This is a trouble hand that does not play well from early position.

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Without reading the poster, this is betgo. He plays tighter than I would if I were on the bubble and ITM was equivalent to me not dying.

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You think I play tight from my posts or from being at the same table with me?

I might raise 86s here, but not KQo.

0evg0 · #10 07-31-2006, 08:18 PM

Both.

And I've watched too, I'm stealth like that.

But mainly I'm just having fun, it was an easy joke to make.