A modified Stop-n-go?

Machinehead · #1 07-28-2006, 04:18 PM

This is a bubble hand from Super Tuesday. Top 100 get paid, I think we're right around 110 left. I was fairly new to the table, no reads on CO, but the table is playing pretty weak tight around bubble time. Most preflop raises went uncalled.

Party Poker No-Limit Hold'em Tourney, Big Blind is t2000 (10 handed) Hand History Converter Tool from FlopTurnRiver.com (Format: 2+2 Forums)

UTG+2 (t48129)
MP1 (t41521)
MP2 (t157577)
MP3 (t153516)
CO (t23903)
Button (t32895)
Hero (t45390)
BB (t28003)
UTG (t76237)
UTG+1 (t34943)

Preflop: Hero is SB with A[img]/images/graemlins/club.gif[/img], Q[img]/images/graemlins/diamond.gif[/img].
6 folds, CO raises to t6000, 1 fold, Hero calls t5000, 1 fold.

Flop: (t11000) 5[img]/images/graemlins/diamond.gif[/img], 3[img]/images/graemlins/diamond.gif[/img], 3[img]/images/graemlins/heart.gif[/img] (2 players)
Hero bets t18000

Obviously the difference here is I'm not short stacked, CO is. I posted this because it seems like a lot of people think SnGs should only be used when you are short stacked.

Thoughts?

willie · #2 07-28-2006, 04:27 PM

i'd probably push preflop if the CO has been active at all....

you're ahead of co's raising range and you could push 66-99 out possile, whereas after this flop- those hands are going nowhere.

freakin edit again.

seeing your description it favors a push even more.

table has shown little resistance to preflop raises therefore a reraise should garner even more respect.

plus you're on the bubble and putting someone to the test for everything without being able to evaluate the flop and see where they stand.

0evg0 · #3 07-28-2006, 04:36 PM

Either push preflop or C/C all-in on the flop. You probably played this as bad as possible, with folding ahead of call/lead on my list. Are you hoping he folds? And if so, what better hands is he folding?

somerook · #4 07-28-2006, 04:41 PM

Why is this a stop-n-go? Looks like an unnecessary over sized c-bet!!
Whatever you can achieve by betting 18K you can achieve by betting 7-10K
If he hit any part of the flop, he is calling you - if not, he is folding anyways.

There are very very few hands that hit this flop hard and is consistent with your preflop call. Tough sell

0evg0 · #5 07-28-2006, 05:04 PM

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Why is this a stop-n-go? Looks like an unnecessary over sized c-bet!!
Whatever you can achieve by betting 18K you can achieve by betting 7-10K
If he hit any part of the flop, he is calling you - if not, he is folding anyways.

There are very very few hands that hit this flop hard and is consistent with your preflop call. Tough sell

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somerook · #6 07-28-2006, 05:08 PM

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Can you help me understand why?

TomHimself · #7 07-28-2006, 05:11 PM

this is horrible. just push pf and let hands that u dominate call.

0evg0 · #8 07-28-2006, 05:13 PM

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Can you help me understand why?

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Why bet 7-10k? Are you saying you can fold if he comes over the top? I don't get it.

Machinehead · #9 07-29-2006, 06:14 PM

I'm suprised this hand got such a bad response.

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Either push preflop or C/C all-in on the flop. You probably played this as bad as possible, with folding ahead of call/lead on my list. Are you hoping he folds? And if so, what better hands is he folding?

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I made the decision to stop-n-go before the flop, not after the flop. That wouldn't be a stop-n-go. I was pushing any flop I didn't hit.

How could folding possibly be better than my line?

Machinehead · #10 07-29-2006, 06:15 PM

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i'd probably push preflop if the CO has been active at all....

you're ahead of co's raising range and you could push 66-99 out possile, whereas after this flop- those hands are going nowhere.

freakin edit again.

seeing your description it favors a push even more.

table has shown little resistance to preflop raises therefore a reraise should garner even more respect.

plus you're on the bubble and putting someone to the test for everything without being able to evaluate the flop and see where they stand.

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Even though I'm ahead of his range, he has correct odds to call with anything I don't dominate. He's got 17k something left and the pot would be around 32k if I push preflop. I did not think I had much FE at all.