What do you think re: home game ad I came across? EDIT: Whoa!! DRAMA!

[Obfuscation]

Found this on a big public message board thingy for my area. Just quoting a portion, anyone motivated can find it themselves.

I was curious as to what you guys think he means with his last statement. Do you think this means its a tight game or does it tend to show that these are inexperienced or generally non-2p2 type players who fear a pro running them over?

Here's the ad:

"relaxed, laid back home game (cash, not tourney). 50cent/50cent blinds, $20-40 buyin, so it's small stakes. (though it probably plays more like a 50/$1 game.)
anyway, we're just here to have fun. if you're a tight player that only plays top-10 hands, and hunts out these games because you wanna make money, money, money ... then this game is obviously not for you."

[kerowo]

Sounds like a donk fest where they are more interested in having fun than in having Phil Hellmouth style outbursts as your AA gets cracked by runner runner 3's.

[Obfuscation]

Hrmph.

Well then the hell with that.

[steamboatin]

If I wanted to make money, money, money I would probably try to play a little higher. LOL, it would really funny if they got busted and had to pay big fines because they advertised their little home game. They are worried about a "Pro" coming in and taking their $20 and they should be worried about what the Prosecutor and the Judge will take.

[Obfuscation]

Stop the presses: Now I found another listing that seems to be about the same home game. Maybe I'll take a pass on this. Sounds like a totally sketchy claim, who needs accusations if you happen to run well.

I blanked out the names and phones number the guy posted.(!)



"~*~*~*~*~*~* poker home game -- CHEATER FOUND ~*~*~*~*~*~*

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Date: 2006-07-27, 5:05PM EDT


I know that there is a community of homegame players in Manhattan, so this is a warning to all of you. There is a guy named ### XXXXXXXXXXX ### that we met on craigslist, who had become a regular player at our holdem game. LAST WEEK, HE WAS CAUGHT RED-HANDED CHEATING, in front of 4 other players. As the dealer, he was fixing the deck up to have "set up" hands where he would take down huge pots.

Here is the last hand of the night that was played in a 3-way pot:

XXXX(dealer): A,4 off
Me (small blind): QQ
Dan (big blind): KK

Our game is very low limit -- the blinds are 50 cent / 50 cent.

XXXX: Calls 50 cents.
Me: Raise $5.
Dan: Re-raise to $5 (to $10.50 total).
XXXX: Calls.
Me: Re-raise $30 more (to $40.50 total).
Dan: Re-raise, all-in (to $250+ total).
XXXX: Calls... CALLS!!! With 4 reraises, an all-in, and a player behind him.
Me: Easy fold.

The flop is A,5,6.

XXXXX was in $700 that last night, so he was clearly desperate. My guess is that he was hoping that the pre-flop action would be a bit tamer, and that way, it would look like he was just making a "gambling" call, for maybe $20 preflop. But the preflop action didn't go that way. And, my guess is that, because he's a (proud, self-confessed) pothead, and maybe because his judgment was a bit off, he decided he would go through with it anyway at the end of the night.

I'll leave out the details of how it is that all 4 other players INDEPENDENTLY came to the conclusion that XXXX was cheating, but this last hand, I think, really speaks for itself. By the end of the night, we had pretty much caught him in the act, stacking the deck under the table -- so much so that one player was dealt AK suited preflop and refused to play the hand. (Alas, the other player was also dealt AK and lost his entire stack. He flopped AKQ against XXXXX's QQ.)

Our best conservative guess at what XXXX-the-scumbag has taken off of our table is something like $2000-3000. He has sat at our hold em table I'd say about six times, and the pattern is the same every time: First, he goes in pretty deep, about $400-500 of buyins each time. Second, he climbs out of the hole and makes a profit late at night when we he is the dealer.

XXXXXXXX XXXXXXXX is Indian by ethnicity (though he doesn't really look too Indian; maybe latin; maybe something else), and speaks fluent English. He is about 5'9", has slightly dark skin, and has short curly dark brown hair. His most distinguishing feature is a XXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXX. His cell-phone is (XXXXXXXXXXXXX, and his email is XXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXX. He lives in lower Manhattan, on XXXXXXXXXXXXXXXX. He has been spotted at the XXXXXXXXXXX XXXXXXXXX playing the 1/2 NL and 2/5 NL games. He is a cheater, he is a scumbag. He is the person that smiles and shakes your hand as if he were a friend, only to stab you in the back when he can.

If you would like more details, please email me with your number and I can give you a call to talk to you about it (because I do have other information about him and his whereabouts). I know from a few different players that I've met on craigslist that he does frequent some of your home games, so at the very least, you need to be particularly careful when he is dealing -- make sure that somebody cuts the deck, and I would also count the deck fairly often to ensure that there are 52 cards.

I wish that I had it in my DNA to hunt him down and take a baseball bat to his head, but alas, I'm just not built that way. I've never been a violent person. But if any of you happen to run in to him..."

[samjjones]

I would never play in any game where the deck is not cut by somebody other than the dealer.

[sirpupnyc]

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I would never play in any game where the dealer didn't keep the deck above the table.

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[youtalkfunny]

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By the end of the night, we had pretty much caught him in the act, stacking the deck under the table

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I stopped reading at that point.

[cardcounter0]

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By the end of the night, we had pretty much caught him in the act, stacking the deck under the table


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If stacking the deck under the table was "pretty much", I wonder what he would have to do for these clowns to "absolutely" catch him cheating?

[Wongboy]

I love the part where the hand speaks for itself as obvious cheating. If that pattern of play is conclusive evidence of cheating, then there is a cheat in more than half of the Vegas Casinos every Friday and Saturday night playing $1/$2 NL.