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07-27-2006, 04:33 AM
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Why move up slowly
A standard question is: When should I move up in limits?
Answer: If your a winning player at one limit with an ROI that confirms that. Rule of thumb is 20% for the lower limits. The big mistake alot players make is move up to quickly if they have a winning streak at the start because they think they are so good because of their ROI of 30%. Then they move up. I see so many players at sharkscope with only hundreds of tourneys playing 109 or higher. May be a couple of them are former party players (sharkscope is only for Stars)who dont like the new SNG-format. But I think most players are not. Needless to say that most of them are losing players. Over the first 100 SNG of my new 1000 tourney series I had an ROI of 41%. I know that this is ridiculous high (for me, for 2p2 member standard [img]/images/graemlins/grin.gif[/img]) and that I have a winning streak (I win most of my coinflips). Do I move up? No because I know that my ROI at the 16$ turbos is less than 20% (over 1700 tourneys). OK thats also a bankroll question. My bankroll is most of the time too low to play 27$ turbos. In my opinion this mistake is the main for going busto at the tourneys. slimbob 
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#6
07-29-2006, 11:01 PM
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Re: Why move up slowly
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A standard question is: When should I move up in limits? Answer: If your a winning player at one limit with an ROI that confirms that. Rule of thumb is 20% for the lower limits. The big mistake alot players make is move up to quickly if they have a winning streak at the start because they think they are so good because of their ROI of 30%. Then they move up. I see so many players at sharkscope with only hundreds of tourneys playing 109 or higher. May be a couple of them are former party players (sharkscope is only for Stars)who dont like the new SNG-format. But I think most players are not. Needless to say that most of them are losing players. Over the first 100 SNG of my new 1000 tourney series I had an ROI of 41%. I know that this is ridiculous high (for me, for 2p2 member standard [img]/images/graemlins/grin.gif[/img]) and that I have a winning streak (I win most of my coinflips). Do I move up? No because I know that my ROI at the 16$ turbos is less than 20% (over 1700 tourneys). OK thats also a bankroll question. My bankroll is most of the time too low to play 27$ turbos. In my opinion this mistake is the main for going busto at the tourneys. slimbob [/ QUOTE ] i fully agree with you many people don't understand/imagine that one need to play hundreds of tourneys (preferably 1000) to have a good idea of their ROI i ran a few sims here and i understood that I shall wait to have played at least 1000 tourneys to decide to move up. My goal is to sustain a ROI of 25% at 10+1 SNGs. With only 250 tourneys for instance, there's a real chance that a 25% ROI is in fact only 17-18%.
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#7
07-29-2006, 11:03 PM
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Re: Why move up slowly
nice post slimbob.
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#9
07-29-2006, 11:29 PM
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Re: Why move up slowly
i think that is way exagerated
yes, the real ROI maybe 0-2% , but with a probability inferior to 2.5% So it's really unlikely sure, that MAY happen though as 2.5% is not 0.
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#10
07-29-2006, 11:39 PM
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Re: Why move up slowly
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i think that is way exagerated yes, the real ROI maybe 0-2% , but with a probability inferior to 2.5% So it's really unlikely sure, that MAY happen though as 2.5% is not 0. [/ QUOTE ] Can you show the math? It's not that I don't believe you but 2.5% seems too low and I'd really like to know how you arrived at it.
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