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Old 07-26-2006, 07:39 PM
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Default Party 1/2 collusion hand

this hand seemed very strange. LetsSeeWhatHappens goes to sd 46% of time. here's an example hand before the collusion. LSWH is UTG, clearly he pays off.
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Party Poker 100/200 Hold'em (6 handed) internettexasholdem.com

Preflop: Hero is Button with Q[img]/images/graemlins/spade.gif[/img], 6[img]/images/graemlins/spade.gif[/img].
<font color="#CC3333">UTG raises</font>, <font color="#666666">1 fold</font>, <font color="#CC3333">CO 3-bets</font>, <font color="#666666">3 folds</font>, UTG calls.

Flop: (7.50 SB) T[img]/images/graemlins/heart.gif[/img], 8[img]/images/graemlins/heart.gif[/img], Q[img]/images/graemlins/heart.gif[/img] <font color="#0000FF">(2 players)</font>
UTG checks, <font color="#CC3333">CO bets</font>, UTG calls.

Turn: (4.75 BB) Q[img]/images/graemlins/club.gif[/img] <font color="#0000FF">(2 players)</font>
UTG checks, <font color="#CC3333">CO bets</font>, UTG calls.

River: (6.75 BB) K[img]/images/graemlins/spade.gif[/img] <font color="#0000FF">(2 players)</font>
UTG checks, <font color="#CC3333">CO bets</font>, UTG calls.

Final Pot: 8.75 BB

Results in white below: <font color="#FFFFFF">
UTG has 9s Ac (one pair, queens).
CO has Ah Kc (two pair, kings and queens).
Outcome: CO wins 8.75 BB. </font>
now the collusion hand: LSWH is BB

Party Poker 100/200 Hold'em (5 handed) internettexasholdem.com

Preflop: Hero is Button with 6[img]/images/graemlins/spade.gif[/img], A[img]/images/graemlins/spade.gif[/img].
<font color="#666666">2 folds</font>, <font color="#CC3333">Hero raises</font>, <font color="#CC3333">SB 3-bets</font>, BB calls, Hero calls.

Flop: (9 SB) Q[img]/images/graemlins/heart.gif[/img], A[img]/images/graemlins/diamond.gif[/img], 4[img]/images/graemlins/spade.gif[/img] <font color="#0000FF">(3 players)</font>
<font color="#CC3333">SB bets</font>, BB calls, <font color="#CC3333">Hero raises</font>, <font color="#CC3333">SB 3-bets</font>, BB calls, Hero calls.

Turn: (9 BB) 5[img]/images/graemlins/club.gif[/img] <font color="#0000FF">(3 players)</font>
<font color="#CC3333">SB bets</font>, BB calls, Hero folds.

River: (11 BB) 5[img]/images/graemlins/spade.gif[/img] <font color="#0000FF">(2 players)</font>
<font color="#CC3333">SB bets</font>, BB folds.

Final Pot: 12 BB
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Old 07-26-2006, 07:49 PM
baronzeus baronzeus is offline
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Default Re: Party 1/2 collusion hand

just fwiw, it doesnt look like collusion to me. it looks more like he has KJ
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Old 07-26-2006, 07:52 PM
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Default Re: Party 1/2 collusion hand

or JT or KT
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Old 07-26-2006, 07:53 PM
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Default Re: Party 1/2 collusion hand

...? I don't see how you can list this as 'collusion'. You weren't squeezed at all. Maybe BB had JdTd? Who knows. Maybe he is just a bad player...

You definately need alot more evidence to make such a strong allegation.

JT
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Old 07-26-2006, 09:00 PM
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Default Re: Party 1/2 collusion hand

It would look a lot more like collusion if he raised the turn then folded when 3 bet.
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Old 07-26-2006, 09:30 PM
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Default Re: Party 1/2 collusion hand

is this a joke?
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Old 07-26-2006, 10:08 PM
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Default Re: Party 1/2 collusion hand

This guy is a seemingly good playre. No good player would play KJ KT or JT this way. it's a mistake PF, on the flop and on the turn.
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Old 07-26-2006, 10:17 PM
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Default Re: Party 1/2 collusion hand

[ QUOTE ]
This guy is a seemingly good playre. No good player would play KJ KT or JT this way. it's a mistake PF, on the flop and on the turn.

[/ QUOTE ]

Well I'm swayed.

[img]/images/graemlins/confused.gif[/img]
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Old 07-26-2006, 11:08 PM
Nate tha\\\' Great Nate tha\\\' Great is offline
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Default Re: Party 1/2 collusion hand

[ QUOTE ]
This guy is a seemingly good playre. No good player would play KJ KT or JT this way. it's a mistake PF, on the flop and on the turn.

[/ QUOTE ]

He seems like anything but a good player based on hand #1. Seriously, what gives?
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Old 07-26-2006, 11:19 PM
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Default Re: Party 1/2 collusion hand

ok, i'll take it back. it just seemed very very strange to me at the time and another good player i know agreed taht it was very strange.
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