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Old 07-26-2006, 04:12 PM
moldman moldman is offline
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Default OESD + Flush draw = push? PS 100NL

After taking a couple bad beats and running into AA a few times, I was on pseudo-tilt and determined to make a comeback. The table was very tight with me being the only exception (at least at this point). Everyone else, villian included, was less than a 20/10. So, I start raising everything (like 80% in the past 20 hands and have made a nice comeback from 5 bucks left), and win almost every pot preflop or with a c-bet. I'm in the BB here and take the free flop and actually have a hand for once, but encounter resistance. I have a big drawing hand - is this a call? Does my image matter? It seemed to me an obvious call given what the people had to be thinking of me, but what if I was playing like my regular TAG self and was deeper stacked?

PokerStars No-Limit Hold'em, $1.00 BB (4 handed) Hand History Converter Tool from FlopTurnRiver.com (Format: 2+2 Forums)

Hero ($30.35)
UTG ($50.10)
Button ($56)
SB ($148.05)

Preflop: Hero is BB with J[img]/images/graemlins/diamond.gif[/img], 7[img]/images/graemlins/diamond.gif[/img].
<font color="#666666">2 folds</font>, SB completes, Hero checks.

Flop: ($2) 8[img]/images/graemlins/diamond.gif[/img], 5[img]/images/graemlins/club.gif[/img], 6[img]/images/graemlins/diamond.gif[/img] <font color="#0000FF">(2 players)</font>
SB checks, <font color="#CC3333">Hero bets $3</font>, <font color="#CC3333">SB raises to $6</font>, <font color="#CC3333">Hero pushes??
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Old 07-26-2006, 04:17 PM
CappyAA CappyAA is offline
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Default Re: OESD + Flush draw = push? PS 100NL

Yes....and what the hell are you doing with $30??? Reload to a full stack.
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Old 07-26-2006, 04:21 PM
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Default Re: OESD + Flush draw = push? PS 100NL

Table select better. Learn this lesson now, it's going to get increasingly more important.
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Old 07-26-2006, 04:22 PM
DaveTheClueless DaveTheClueless is offline
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Default Re: OESD + Flush draw = push? PS 100NL

1. Determined to make a comeback isn't pseudo-tilt. Its tilt.

2. If the table is very tight you may want to work on table selection. Unless by tight you mean tight and passive, or weak-tight.

3. If villain is tight, what range does he limp with and min raise that flop? You have to have some notion of what he is holding, because without fold equity this is a rotten push IMO. A call is fine, but I wouldn't push here without a fair idea villain would fold.
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Old 07-26-2006, 04:23 PM
entertainme entertainme is offline
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Default Re: OESD + Flush draw = push? PS 100NL

Here is where I reveal my weak tight nature.

With the reraise by SB, who is to say your flush is good if you do hit it? If he had Axd wouldn't he raise here to protect his flush draw?
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Old 07-26-2006, 04:25 PM
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Default Re: OESD + Flush draw = push? PS 100NL

go ahead and push, you have some fold equity and probably the best hand
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Old 07-26-2006, 04:28 PM
ajmargarine ajmargarine is offline
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Default Re: OESD + Flush draw = push? PS 100NL

Easiest push ever with a $30 stack. If you had $130 then we can discuss options.
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Old 07-26-2006, 04:29 PM
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Default Re: OESD + Flush draw = push? PS 100NL

Villain limped from the SB. I think we're way ahead of his range, and we have to have some FE with a push. I push.
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Old 07-26-2006, 04:37 PM
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Default Re: OESD + Flush draw = push? PS 100NL

Well, I lost a monster pot to same guy and had 5 bucks left, and was ready for bed, thus me not reloading. Worked stack up because table was weak-tight and was able to win small pot after small pot, double up once with AT v 22 all-in preflop (he called my push), so it's not like it was a really bad table.

aj - if I did have 130, how do you play this hand? Do you smooth call flop, raise? What do you do to a re-raise? Given this guys numbers, I would probably call, because I only think he's calling a re-raise with a set or overpair here (yes, he was that tight). What about against a regular, TA player - how much are we willing to risk on this draw?
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Old 07-26-2006, 04:39 PM
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Default Re: OESD + Flush draw = push? PS 100NL

Added note: yes, I'll admit I was tilting. Grrrrr....
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