Makonnen's Muck Ups (Low Limit O8) #4

[Makonnen]

Party Poker | Limit Omaha Ring game | Limit: $0.50/$1
9 players
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Pre-flop: (9 players) Makonnen is MP2 with A[img]/images/graemlins/heart.gif[/img] 2[img]/images/graemlins/club.gif[/img] Q[img]/images/graemlins/heart.gif[/img] 8[img]/images/graemlins/diamond.gif[/img]
3 folds, Makonnen calls, MP3 calls, CO calls, Button folds, SB calls, BB checks.

Flop: 5[img]/images/graemlins/club.gif[/img] 6[img]/images/graemlins/heart.gif[/img] J[img]/images/graemlins/spade.gif[/img] (5SB, 5 players)
SB checks, BB checks, Makonnen checks, MP3 checks, <font color="#cc0000">CO bets</font>, SB calls, BB folds, Makonnen calls, MP3 folds.

Turn: T[img]/images/graemlins/heart.gif[/img] (4BB, 3 players)
SB checks, <font color="#cc0000">Makonnen bets</font>, <font color="#cc0000">CO raises</font>, SB calls, Makonnen calls.

River: 6[img]/images/graemlins/club.gif[/img] (10BB, 3 players)
SB checks, Makonnen checks, <font color="#cc0000">CO bets</font>, SB folds, Makonnen folds.
Uncalled bets: 1BB returned to CO.

Results:
Final pot: 10BB
<font color="#ffffff">CO shows Td 6s Jh As </font>

I think I played this fine ... could it be that the most costly hand of this session wasn't chock full of mistakes? Dare I hope? [img]/images/graemlins/smile.gif[/img]

-Makonnen

[Split Suit]

all seems very standard. on the turn we have what tho...double gutty/NFD/NLD? so 17 outs on the low, 6 for the str8, and 9 outs for the flush. i like it...good choice to just call the turn and not ramma-jamma. well played, and was this really ur most costly hand in a session?

my 2cents

[Makonnen]

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was this really ur most costly hand in a session?

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Yah. Only about a 400 hand session. Clearly a mixture of luck and some of the wisdom of this forum slowly dripping into my head.

Learning to fold,

-Makonnen

[Pnigro]

I agree, well played.

[zizazziza]

i dont like making this turn bet 3-handed, if 2-handed and checked to me this is a good time to bet.

[Scott Y.]

3-bet turn for value.

[Makonnen]

Well ... see, now I'd love to see some more input from zizazziza and/or Scott Y. At first, when I read z's post, I thought it was waaaay too tight, but then I realized that maybe this pot failed Buzz's rule for putting more money into the pot.

Counting hard, I come up with:

4 scoop outs (hi only [img]/images/graemlins/heart.gif[/img] flush, ignoring someone else holding the str8flush)
5 other flush outs, good for, let's say, 80% of the pot.
6 str8 outs, good, say 50% of the time.

So, 10, ignoring any value of the low. That would say that I'm good just under 25% of the time, needing another person in the hand to make the bet worthwhile.

So, that makes me think z is right, the bet was a mistake.

Or, is that just too weak-tight?

-Makonnen

[Scott Y.]

Heads-up you lead turn planning to bluff a river high card and it's not close. 3-way you jam and c/f river unimproved, c/c blank low, etc.

[Makonnen]

Can someone point me too some more info on why I should have jammed the turn here, if indeed Scott Y. is right on that?

-Makonnen