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Old 01-01-2006, 11:08 AM
TomCollins TomCollins is offline
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Default Flopping the nuts, deep stacks NL 1000 6max

Villian in this hand has been playing fairly solid, and has cold decked a few people to get his stack. He has 3400 and I have about 1800. Game is currently 5 handed.

I am on the button and get 8 [img]/images/graemlins/spade.gif[/img] 7 [img]/images/graemlins/spade.gif[/img].

Villian raises UTG to $35. He does this fairly often, but hasn't really been too out of line yet.

UTG+1 folds, I call, SB folds, BB calls.

Flop is 4 [img]/images/graemlins/diamond.gif[/img] 5 [img]/images/graemlins/diamond.gif[/img] 6 [img]/images/graemlins/heart.gif[/img].

BB bets $80. Villian raises to $220.

What's my move? Pop it here, and it seems obvious what I have (or at least I have a set). I put villian on anything from an overpair to AKd or a set. Villian has raised big with overcards and a flush draw before.

If I raise, how much?
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Old 01-01-2006, 11:12 AM
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Default Re: Flopping the nuts, deep stacks NL 1000 6max

Ugh. Bit of a lame situation.

I think I just call here and pray BB shoves.
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Old 01-01-2006, 12:05 PM
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Default Re: Flopping the nuts, deep stacks NL 1000 6max

I agree. Flat call

Pardon the hijack, but if you were the villain and had AK of diamonds here would you raise the flop bet or just call?
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Old 01-01-2006, 12:23 PM
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Default Re: Flopping the nuts, deep stacks NL 1000 6max

Probably jack it to $350.
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Old 01-01-2006, 01:02 PM
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Default Re: Flopping the nuts, deep stacks NL 1000 6max

I like to call here and try to get it in on the turn if a safe card comes (assuming it doesn't get repopped behind you); if it gets bet into on the turn the pot will be big and you may get a bad call, if it is checked to you I would make a bet that leaves the illusion of folding equity in your opponents' minds, like 450ish.
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Old 01-01-2006, 01:45 PM
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Default Re: Flopping the nuts, deep stacks NL 1000 6max

PUSH
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Old 01-01-2006, 02:14 PM
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Default Re: Flopping the nuts, deep stacks NL 1000 6max

basically this comes down to what type of player are you. Are you willing to take the chance on a safe turn to get more money or would you rather win what you can and more on.

Safe = push
chances = flat call
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Old 01-01-2006, 02:23 PM
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Default Re: Flopping the nuts, deep stacks NL 1000 6max

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What's my move? Pop it here, and it seems obvious what I have (or at least I have a set).

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If anything I think calling reveals more of what you have. Unless your opponents think you're retarded and are the type of person that just flat call a big raise on a bad draw, a flat call just screams monster strength IMO. I think you're better off raising and hoping they don't put you on the nuts/set. In fact, if they have a set as well you will probably get their stack in. Not to mention there are a ton of scare cards on the turn that could kill your action which would be tragic given that you have some reasonably deep stacks.
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Old 01-01-2006, 02:29 PM
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Default Re: Flopping the nuts, deep stacks NL 1000 6max

I think villain is showing he is attatched to his hand and if your read is correct I think you get paid off here with an overpair and possibly a set (not that villain is wrong for paying you off with a set).

I think there are too many turn cards which can scare you off your hand, and knowing the way I play, at least, I would reraise or push.
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Old 01-01-2006, 04:50 PM
Jason Strasser (strassa2) Jason Strasser (strassa2) is offline
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Default Re: Flopping the nuts, deep stacks NL 1000 6max

i agree here. I like a pot sized reraise.

-Jason
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