Top Pair - Good Kicker - Is calling down a mistake?

22pajo · #1 07-24-2006, 06:29 AM

Limit: $0.50/$1
10 players

Villain is TAG (29/10/2.5 over 70 hands).

Pre-flop: (10 players) Hero is MP3 with Q[img]/images/graemlins/heart.gif[/img] K[img]/images/graemlins/heart.gif[/img]
4 folds, MP2 calls, Hero raises, CO 3-bets, 4 folds, Hero calls.

Flop: K[img]/images/graemlins/spade.gif[/img] 3[img]/images/graemlins/heart.gif[/img] 4[img]/images/graemlins/club.gif[/img] (8.5SB, 2 players)
Hero checks, CO bets, Hero calls.

Turn: T[img]/images/graemlins/diamond.gif[/img] (5.25BB, 2 players)
Hero checks, CO bets, Hero calls.

River: J[img]/images/graemlins/heart.gif[/img] (7.25BB, 2 players)
Hero checks, CO bets, Hero ???

Any other way to play this?

Str8Fish · #2 07-24-2006, 07:28 AM

29/10/2.5 isn't TAG. I'd call this down with those stats.

22pajo · #3 07-24-2006, 07:39 AM

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29/10/2.5 isn't TAG. I'd call this down with those stats.

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What kind of stats indicates a TAG?

Str8Fish · #4 07-24-2006, 07:45 AM

someone who's 29/10/2.5 is more of a LAG. A TAG is something like 18/10/3.

Poker Plan · #5 07-24-2006, 08:26 AM

Top pair pretty good kicker: I would have led out the betting and see where you stand,

the way you played it- you were doing all the guessing, not the villain.

If he 3-bet your flop bet, you could think about folding?

Ian

Bonesy · #6 07-24-2006, 12:23 PM

I agree that he isn't a TAG, but he is AG. Leading out the flop against a LAG is useless. You will bet raised a ton by whatever and it tells you nothing.

That river card sux, because a few more combos just passed you. The pot is big enough to call, but I wouldn't like it.

shadow. · #7 07-24-2006, 01:14 PM

i c/r the flop.

i'd guess that this opponent actually is a tag...he's just played a couple more blind hands in these 70 that is upping his vpip without a corresponding increase in pfr. also note that there are tags that aren't 2p2ers-- these guys are on like rgp and p5s and are more passive than 2p2ers are.

mojobluesman · #8 07-24-2006, 06:45 PM

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i c/r the flop.

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Could you please explain why one would want to C/R?

If you are behind AA, KK, or AK you'll just get re-raised.

If you are winning, you may make him fold.

Is the idea that you can fold to a re-raise but you can't fold to a bet and raise?

kumarshah · #9 07-24-2006, 07:31 PM

Why are we not raising even once with TP Good kicker?

Villian could 3-bet PF with any mid PP, AJ, AT,JJ,AQ,KQ.

22pajo · #10 07-25-2006, 05:24 AM

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i c/r the flop.

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Why?