Are Loose Players More Prone to Call All-Ins if the Flop Has Draws?

[PokrLikeItsProse]

The past two tournaments ($20-ish NLHE buy-ins online), I got knocked out when I correctly read a loose player as having a weak hand (both habitually bet pot with top pair, but half-pot or less with worse hands, including his continuation bets, while checking strong hands) and pushed all-in, but got called by bottom pair with an ace kicker in the first case and a pocket pair with two overcards on the flop in the second case. I had seen these players bet the flop and fold to a raise before, saying "nice bet" while claiming to have middle pair, or a pocket pair. Looking back, both flops were two-suited.

My view of the psychology of loose players is that they are more inclined to call when they think they can beat the worst hands you would play that way, regardless of how many better hands you would play that way. As long as they have a shot of being better, as long as they have outs, they are inclined to call. If they think that you would semi-bluff a draw, they would be more inclined to call, even if you are the favorite (flush draw and two overs, etc.).

Given this, it seems that if you read a loose, calling station for a relatively weak hand, you have a much greater shot of pushing them off of A7 on a K73 rainbow flop than off of AT on a J[img]/images/graemlins/heart.gif[/img]T[img]/images/graemlins/spade.gif[/img]7[img]/images/graemlins/spade.gif[/img] flop. Not every loose player plays this way, but enough do so that semibluffing draws has a lesser chance of winning outright on the flop than pure-bluffing air on a draw-less flop against these players. Of course, the draw semibluff still has a second way to win, so may be more profitable overall, but against some opponents, you have almost zero chance of getting them to fold a made hand if they think that you are a player who will raise with a draw. In fact, some players will put you on a draw semibluff and call with ace-high. Unfortunately, you usually only find this out about a player after you get called.

[0evg0]

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Are Bad Players More Prone to Call All-Ins if the Flop Has Draws?

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[nath]

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Are Bad Players More Prone to Call All-Ins With Bad Hands?

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Yes

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there we go

[MeanGreenTT]

so warm

[Jeppi]

If your read is correct, I think that there is more value in overplaying top pair against them in a draw heavy board than to bluff them out of their weak hands in a draw less board. After all they are calling stations, no?

[0evg0]

Good to see you are still as sensitive as ever TT.

I sent you a PM like a week ago, your lack of a response hurt my feelings.

[nath]

BTW, there is good discussion to be had on this topic, I was just tired and cranky when I made my post.