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Old 07-23-2006, 11:05 PM
shark6 shark6 is offline
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Default 2/4 QTo against 1 limper

Just want to make sure I didn't get out of line or miss a bet in this hand.

<font color="blue"> Limper is 50/3 and passive
Blinds are slightly loose passive.</font>

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Limit Holdem Ring game
Limit: $2/$4
7 players
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Pre-flop: (7 players) Hero is Button with
2 folds, MP1 calls, CO folds, <font color="#cc0000">Hero raises</font>, SB calls, BB calls, MP1 calls.

Flop: (8SB, 4 players)
SB checks, BB checks, MP1 checks, <font color="#cc0000">Hero bets</font>, SB calls, BB calls, MP1 folds.

Turn: (5.5BB, 3 players)
SB checks, BB checks, <font color="#cc0000">Hero bets</font>, SB folds, BB calls.

River: (7.5BB, 2 players)
BB checks, Hero checks.

Results:
Final pot: 7.5BB
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Old 07-23-2006, 11:16 PM
kawelljd kawelljd is offline
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Default Re: 2/4 QTo against 1 limper

I liked how you played this hand, but how often would you be up against a worse kicker, sevens, or a lower pocket pair? If he has calling station tendencies, I could see betting river.
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Old 07-24-2006, 12:10 AM
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Default Re: 2/4 QTo against 1 limper

What was the river card? Assuming it's a blank, I think I'm betting here. There's a good number of hands out there that a loose passive will call with - any 7, lower pocket pair, worse kicker, even Ace high is possible. He got a decent price in the big blind, so he really could have called with a lot of weak hands (especially if they were suited). Anyone else betting this river?
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Old 07-24-2006, 12:16 AM
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Default Re: 2/4 QTo against 1 limper

yea, especially against this opponent, i would definately be betting the river.
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Old 07-24-2006, 12:23 AM
Dangeresque Dangeresque is offline
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Default Re: 2/4 QTo against 1 limper

I have to agree. Bet the river. What was a pre flop raise attempting to accomplish here?
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Old 07-24-2006, 12:31 AM
Mattafuga Mattafuga is offline
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Default Re: 2/4 QTo against 1 limper

I'd bet the river too. More often than not, he won't have an ace to go with it.

I don't think I would have raised preflop though, or even called in some situations.
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Old 07-24-2006, 12:36 AM
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Default Re: 2/4 QTo against 1 limper

Looks good, but I would bet the river. It is very doubtful he has a 3 since he would have shown so on the turn, and it is unlikely he has an ace given that he has called both the flop and turn.

So, he either has a FD, a queen, or a pocket pair. A pocket pair will most likely pay you off if you bet, you won't get any value from a FD either way, and you split the pot with a better queen anyway.

Edit: Or a 7, which pays you off. (I forgot the obvious)

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Old 07-24-2006, 12:46 AM
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Default Re: 2/4 QTo against 1 limper

I think the preflop raise isn't that bad. The table was seven handed. He's got the button and trying to get heads up with a passive opponent, take the lead in the hand, and fold the blinds. It would depend on your table image at the time. If you haven't played a lot of hands lately, I'd raise.
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Old 07-24-2006, 01:16 AM
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Default Re: 2/4 QTo against 1 limper

I don't mind the preflop raise here to isolate - against a 50/3 player, QTo is already ahead of most of his limping range. And he's passive. If you hit, you'll most likely win a couple more bets from him. If he misses, the preflop raise gives you folding equity.

Definitely bet that river. There's no reason to believe that Villain has a better hand here. You'll get called by a worse hand here well more than 50% of the time.
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Old 07-24-2006, 08:27 AM
kawelljd kawelljd is offline
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Default Re: 2/4 QTo against 1 limper

Sierra, although I agree with you, how do you figure "more than 50% of the time"? Just by feel from playing? Or did you take a more objective approach when coming up with that?
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