$11 Bubble - What are your pushing standards here?

[ddg333]

Party Poker
No Limit holdem Tournament
Blinds: t150/t300
4 players
Converter

Stack sizes:
UTG: t1105
Button: t2122
Hero: t1279
BB: t3494

Pre-flop: (4 players) Hero is SB with 7[img]/images/graemlins/spade.gif[/img] Q[img]/images/graemlins/diamond.gif[/img]
2 folds, <font color="#cc3333">Hero is all-in t1279 <font color="black">

Just curious.. I'm pretty sure my push is -EV given that it's into the big stack. Sometimes I get carried away at this stage. In general, what would the minimum hand be to make this play given that it's folded to you in SB? Thanks in advance. </font>

[pineapple888]

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Party Poker
No Limit holdem Tournament
Blinds: t150/t300
4 players
Converter

Stack sizes:
UTG: t1105
Button: t2122
Hero: t1279
BB: t3494

Pre-flop: (4 players) Hero is SB with 7[img]/images/graemlins/spade.gif[/img] Q[img]/images/graemlins/diamond.gif[/img]
2 folds, <font color="#cc3333">Hero is all-in t1279 <font color="black">

Just curious.. I'm pretty sure my push is -EV given that it's into the big stack. Sometimes I get carried away at this stage. In general, what would the minimum hand be to make this play given that it's folded to you in SB? Thanks in advance. </font>

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Hugely read-dependent but I don't think Q7o quite gets there. I'd want something like Q8s, J9s, something where I have some additional suckout vig. Whatever that works out to be, top 30% of hands or something like that.

[renfurdson]

I'm just figuring out how to use SNGPT so so I tried your hand for practice.
There's no setting for 800 chip buy ins so I adjusted the blind to 200/400. The calling range to give your push positive EV seems to be somewhere between the top 40% and the top 50% of hands. If the big blind will only call with the top 30%, then the EV is certainly positive.


That's assuming I'm using sngpt correctly but I think I am.

[tigerite]

Eh? No, don't adjust the chips, that is nonsense. Why do that? You're definitely not using SNGPT right if you're doing that.

[renfurdson]

Maybe my reasoning was wrong. I was thinking that sngpt assumed everyone started with 1000 chips. That was probably pretty dumb since I told it how many chips everyone had...

I'll go back and try again. Thank you for the correction.

[tigerite]

No, it doesn't assume anything like that. It adds up whatever chips you put in. What chips you start with doesn't even matter to the equation anyway.

[renfurdson]

OK, with the right blinds in there it looks like the calling range would have to be 30% or lower.

[tigerite]

Sounds about right. I think he calls more than that if he's your usual donky big stack at the $11s, which is the problem.

[renfurdson]

Thanks. This type of thing generally happens when I try to think for myself. I usually just do as I'm told but my wife is out of town.

[ddg333]

I just bought SNGPT for the hell of it. Should be great for running these numbers. Thanks for the input everyone. Turns out I was dominated when called hehe (A7). Maybe next time I won't pull these moves on big stack table captain.