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Old 07-19-2006, 12:50 AM
r0eKY r0eKY is offline
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Default live Caesars IN $300 1/2 river push from unknown

Caesars Indiana $300 max 1/2 blinds NL full table


This game is full of novice players, this night happen to be a $100 donkament so it was extra live. There where a couple of old guys with big stack pushing the table around with $20-$30 pf bets for a while.

I'm EP looked down at AA and raise $20 it folds around to the button who calls(he just sit down and it's his first hand, I have no prior history or reads i do have $700 behind me)

flop 6c 7d 8c (pot $43)

i lead $40 he calls (pot$123)

at this point i put him on a
FD/SD, maybe pp or A/x (str, trips, 2pr gotta raise)

turn Qd 6c 7d 8c

i think and bet $100
he then say "wow looks like your gonna make me go re-buy" and laughs a little bit and calls(what does this mean to you) (pot $323)

I'm still putting him on that fd maybe a pr with a fd

river Qc Qd 6c 7d 8c

i think for 8-10 seconds and check, villain instantly pushes in-$140 he then stares straight down at the table(should i say something to him, what are some of your best questions to ask in this spot)

should i lead the river? does villain have the flush?
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Old 07-19-2006, 01:13 AM
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Default Re: live Caesars IN $300 1/2 river push from unknown

do you have Ac/
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Old 07-19-2006, 01:24 AM
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Default Re: live Caesars IN $300 1/2 river push from unknown

both red sorry bout that
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Old 07-20-2006, 09:40 PM
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Default Re: live Caesars IN $300 1/2 river push from unknown

any1??? read this or is it to long, i thought i did a good job
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Old 07-20-2006, 09:45 PM
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Default Re: live Caesars IN $300 1/2 river push from unknown

whatever he has, has you crushed. to me his talkyness followed by his push with the staredown = mucho strengtho

i would have shoved river though you gave yourself sick odds, and i wouldn't blame you for calling.
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Old 07-20-2006, 10:10 PM
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Default Re: live Caesars IN $300 1/2 river push from unknown

he had kd 6d and latter i found out he was a tourney donk

he was actually looking down at the trable and not me, after thinking about the hand the instapush on river is actually was a desperation move on his part
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Old 07-21-2006, 01:48 AM
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Default Re: live Caesars IN $300 1/2 river push from unknown

Before I read the results, my reaction was the same as dustbustr's.

In retrospect, the laughter is the real tell there, and the speech is just something he does. Monster hand speeches are delivered hangdog, with the orator self-consciously melancholy or confused.
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Old 07-21-2006, 02:24 PM
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Default Re: live Caesars IN $300 1/2 river push from unknown

I could not fold AA on this board for such a small bet in a donkish live game. Obv he's a donk, but I usually just valuepush this river cause he still calls w/ the lone 6 or any PP.
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Old 07-21-2006, 02:59 PM
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Default Re: live Caesars IN $300 1/2 river push from unknown

People bluff, people draw to cards that are good for bluffs. You checked one such obvious scare card and you have odds to call (are you good 25% of the time?). It would be awesome if you just counterfeited his two pair.

I'd bet a little more on the turn since there are multiple draws out there and cut down on his bluffing equity.
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