($22) Bubble A10s against big stack pusher

[Zizz]

I found this to be a more interesting hand with the known history of the last few hands which changes villains range drastically. Villain had recently doubled up and had just pushed preflop 2 hands in a row. This was the hand following those 2 pushes.



PokerStars No-Limit Hold'em Tourney, Big Blind is t200 (4 handed) converter

Hero (t2607)
SB (t5862)
BB (t2147)
UTG (t2884)

Preflop: Hero is Button with T[img]/images/graemlins/club.gif[/img], A[img]/images/graemlins/club.gif[/img].
<font color="#666666">1 fold</font>, <font color="#CC3333">Hero raises to t600</font>, <font color="#CC3333">SB raises to t5837</font>, <font color="#666666">1 fold</font>



Without time to do some ICM calculations I ended up calling believing I was ahead of his wide range due to this being his 3rd push in a row. Who calls and who mucks this?

[tigerite]

That's why you should just push first in.

PS The call is meh to say the least. Pretty bad I think to be honest.

[junkmail3]

I think I might just push this preflop so you don't have to deal with this situation. Since you're so close to the other short stacks.

If you had a significant lead over the other to stacks I would just put in a raise here. But it's close enough to just push.

I think I might end up calling here. He's likely being aggressive with his stack.

[Zizz]

Accepting that my raise instead of pushing was a mistake. What makes the call pretty bad?

[tigerite]

Right - he has to be pushing 33% of hands or more to call here. What a silly situation to have gotten yourself into when you could have pushed, and had him calling up to 32% for it to be +$EV for you (and the BB up to 99%, whatever, it doesn't matter what he calls with anyway).

[bighomeytim]

You gotta lay this down as painfull as it might be

[tigerite]

The call is, well, not "amazingly" bad let's say to the push, but really, his range does have to be pretty wide to make it. And if you're even slightly off, you are gonna be taking a HUGE -$EV hit. I don't understand why you'd raise here unless you actually want him to come over the top, which you definitely don't, because the best you're gonna be is a 60/40, barring the rare times you're a 75/25 or whatever, this really isn't the best way to win SNG's. You want to take pots WITHOUT showdowns, not be forced into going to them by silly moves like this.

[Zizz]

I'm understanding that this was a a poor preflop raise that got me into a sticky mess. However I still believe I ended up making the correct move despite the awful situation. Could you expand on your reasoning for you letting it go given my action and knowing his recent actions?

[Paul B.]

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I'm understanding that this was a a poor preflop raise that got me into a sticky mess. However I still believe I ended up making the correct move despite the awful situation. Could you expand on your reasoning for you letting it go given my action and knowing his recent actions?

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Do you understand that if you call and lose, you make no money? Raise-calling is the worst here, I'd rather fold than raise-call.

[bighomeytim]

SNGPT says not to push.