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Old 07-18-2006, 02:41 PM
footnbaseball footnbaseball is offline
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Default 4/180- Sick read, or am I just dumb?

Haven't been paying attention, so no reads.

PokerStars Tournament, Big Blind is t50 (8 handed) Converter on pregopoker.com

UTG (t4205)
UTG+1 (t5945)
MP1 (t1965)
MP2 (t3295)
CO (t1665)
Button (t1528)
Hero (t4085)
BB (t1105)

Preflop: Hero is in SB with T[img]/images/graemlins/spade.gif[/img] T[img]/images/graemlins/diamond.gif[/img]
UTG calls t50, <font color="gray">UTG+1 folds</font>, <font color="gray">MP1 folds</font>, MP2 calls t50, <font color="gray">CO folds</font>, <font color="gray">Button folds</font>, <font color="red">Hero raises to t200</font>, <font color="gray">BB folds</font>, UTG calls t150, <font color="gray">MP2 folds</font>

Flop: (t525) 5[img]/images/graemlins/club.gif[/img] 9[img]/images/graemlins/heart.gif[/img] Q[img]/images/graemlins/heart.gif[/img] (2 players)
<font color="red">Hero bets t300</font>, UTG calls t300

Turn: (t1125) J[img]/images/graemlins/spade.gif[/img] (2 players)
<font color="red">Hero bets t500</font>, UTG calls t500

River: (t2125) 4[img]/images/graemlins/spade.gif[/img] (2 players)
<font color="red">Hero bets t500</font>, <font color="red">UTG raises to t3205 (All-in)</font>, Hero calls t2585 (All-in)

Villian called very quickly on the flop, and I immediately put him on a flush draw. Which leads me to question one: I know that is a fairly good tell live, is it also a good one online?

He called quickly again on the turn, and I was sure he had a flush draw. So on the river I made a bet I thought would be seen as weak that he could bluff at.

Good players always tell stories of getting a feeling and going with their gut. Is this an example of going with your gut, or is this just suicidal with the unpredictable opponents at low stakes?
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Old 07-18-2006, 02:46 PM
AceLuby AceLuby is offline
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Default Re: 4/180- Sick read, or am I just dumb?

This early, in this low of stakes is suicide IMO. You also see quick calls like this w/ made sets as well, against donks who think that another heart can't hurt them. Just my opinion.
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Old 07-18-2006, 02:51 PM
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Default Re: 4/180- Sick read, or am I just dumb?

You have to consider a flopped set &amp; AQ/KQ also. Against an aggressive player in position, I take villian's line exactly. BTW, a thinking player does not call the turn bet with only a FD. You need 5:1 at that point. I like your line through the flop, but I might shut down on the turn. His river push screams you missed YOUR draw and MHIG from villian.
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Old 07-18-2006, 02:52 PM
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Default Re: 4/180- Sick read, or am I just dumb?

Tens lose to so many hands here my vote is suicidal. But who am I, I'm just a stranger.
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Old 07-18-2006, 02:59 PM
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Default Re: 4/180- Sick read, or am I just dumb?

I had some of those feelings
yesterday and that worked out great for me.
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Old 07-18-2006, 03:01 PM
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Default Re: 4/180- Sick read, or am I just dumb?

[ QUOTE ]
I had some of those feelings
yesterday and that worked out great for me.

[/ QUOTE ]


hmm, I see.

Well if it makes you feel better, this one worked out great for me [img]/images/graemlins/grin.gif[/img]

Ahright looks like the verdict is in, and I'm just dumb. I should work on that.
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Old 07-18-2006, 03:49 PM
Quanah Parker Quanah Parker is offline
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Default Re: 4/180- Sick read, or am I just dumb?

If I'm on a flush draw here, I'm more likely to put you all-in after you raised the flop.
...but I agree, lots of folks just insta-call.
But you said, at these levels....well, no telling.
I'd hope to check down after the flop bet gets called.
Also, I'd bet more pre-flop.
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Old 07-18-2006, 03:59 PM
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Default Re: 4/180- Sick read, or am I just dumb?

The tough decision is on the turn. The best choices are:

1) Check and call- I don't know if I'm ahead or not. So I'll check and call, given that I have a straight draw.

2) Bet 800 - If you think it's highly likely that he's on a draw, then you gotta price him out. Betting 500 isn't enough. If he raises, then I'm folding.

3) Check-raise - This might not even be correct. This could also get better hands to fold, though.

On the river, you have to check. I'm pretty confident about this one. Either he has you beat or he missed his flush draw, so why bet?
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