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#1
07-17-2006, 09:28 PM
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$6: Please play this hand for me.
Party Poker No-Limit Hold'em Tourney, Big Blind is t60 (7 handed) Hand History Converter Tool from FlopTurnRiver.com (Format: 2+2 Forums)
BB (t1642) UTG (t3380) MP1 (t5717) MP2 (t2238) CO (t2493) Hero (t1880) SB (t2650) Preflop: Hero is Button with Q[img]/images/graemlins/diamond.gif[/img], A[img]/images/graemlins/spade.gif[/img]. <font color="#CC3333">UTG raises to t170</font>, <font color="#666666">3 folds</font>, Hero calls t170, <font color="#666666">2 folds</font>. Flop: (t430) 4[img]/images/graemlins/diamond.gif[/img], 5[img]/images/graemlins/diamond.gif[/img], 3[img]/images/graemlins/diamond.gif[/img] <font color="#0000FF">(2 players)</font> <font color="#CC3333">UTG bets t350</font>, Hero calls t350. Turn: (t1130) 4[img]/images/graemlins/spade.gif[/img] <font color="#0000FF">(2 players)</font> <font color="#CC3333">UTG bets t825</font>, Hero folds. Final Pot: t1955 No reads on villain. 
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#2
07-17-2006, 09:29 PM
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Re: $6: Please play this hand for me.
I probably fold preflop. As played I raise to 900 and call his push. Maybe just shove? I'm not too sure. The 5s are outs, the diamonds are likely to be clean outs and so will the overcards a lot of the time. You're likely looking at 15 or so outs making you a favourite in the hand.
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#3
07-17-2006, 09:39 PM
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Re: $6: Please play this hand for me.
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I probably fold preflop. [/ QUOTE ] I definitely thought about folding preflop because the raiser was in early position. Is that why you advice folding? [ QUOTE ] As played I raise to 900 and call his push. Maybe just shove? I'm not too sure. The 5s are outs, the diamonds are likely to be clean outs and so will the overcards a lot of the time. You're likely looking at 15 or so outs making you a favourite in the hand. [/ QUOTE ] Yeah, after the hand I was thinking that shoving the flop would be the best play.
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#4
07-17-2006, 09:44 PM
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Re: $6: Please play this hand for me.
calling pf is marginal, but for god sakes fold on the flop. villain has showed continued interest in this pot and dont look like he wants to give it up and you could be drawing dead. you dont know if any of your outs are clean and you are in no way desperate.
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#5
07-17-2006, 09:48 PM
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Re: $6: Please play this hand for me.
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Party Poker No-Limit Hold'em Tourney, Big Blind is t60 (7 handed) Hand History Converter Tool from FlopTurnRiver.com (Format: 2+2 Forums) BB (t1642) UTG (t3380) MP1 (t5717) MP2 (t2238) CO (t2493) Hero (t1880) SB (t2650) Preflop: Hero is Button with Q[img]/images/graemlins/diamond.gif[/img], A[img]/images/graemlins/spade.gif[/img]. <font color="#CC3333">UTG raises to t170</font>, <font color="#666666">3 folds</font>, Hero calls t170, <font color="#666666">2 folds</font>. Flop: (t430) 4[img]/images/graemlins/diamond.gif[/img], 5[img]/images/graemlins/diamond.gif[/img], 3[img]/images/graemlins/diamond.gif[/img] <font color="#0000FF">(2 players)</font> <font color="#CC3333">UTG bets t350</font>, Hero calls t350. Turn: (t1130) 4[img]/images/graemlins/spade.gif[/img] <font color="#0000FF">(2 players)</font> <font color="#CC3333">UTG bets t825</font>, Hero folds. Final Pot: t1955 No reads on villain. [/ QUOTE ] #1- Dont play PP 6's. The rake is to high. Either 11's or another site #2- Fold preflop. I can live with a reraise/push if you have a read on opponent as being a loose donkey. #3- Fold post flop. What are you hoping for here? If you are trying to "outplay" him I think that your chips are better saved for later in the tourney when the blinds go up.
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#6
07-17-2006, 09:58 PM
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Re: $6: Please play this hand for me.
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calling pf is marginal, but for god sakes fold on the flop. villain has showed continued interest in this pot and dont look like he wants to give it up and you could be drawing dead. you dont know if any of your outs are clean and you are in no way desperate. [/ QUOTE ] Lol sure hes drawing dead with a gutshot that is good, flushdraw that is highly likely to be good and two overcards which will be good at least some of the time. How do you work out he doesn't look like hes going to give the pot up? He bet before the flop and then c-bet, hes hardly putting his life savings on his hand. I'm not saying folding is wrong but I think a shove is fine, FE coupled with all the draws we have make this +EV I'm pretty sure.
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#7
07-17-2006, 10:01 PM
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Re: $6: Please play this hand for me.
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[ QUOTE ] calling pf is marginal, but for god sakes fold on the flop. villain has showed continued interest in this pot and dont look like he wants to give it up and you could be drawing dead. you dont know if any of your outs are clean and you are in no way desperate. [/ QUOTE ] Lol sure hes drawing dead with a gutshot that is good, flushdraw that is highly likely to be good and two overcards which will be good at least some of the time. How do you work out he doesn't look like hes going to give the pot up? He bet before the flop and then c-bet, hes hardly putting his life savings on his hand. I'm not saying folding is wrong but I think a shove is fine, FE coupled with all the draws we have make this +EV I'm pretty sure. [/ QUOTE ] he does not have near enough invested in this pot to chase something that even if he hits could very easily still not be the best hand. pushing the flop or turn is not marginal, its horrendous without a very very very good read on the villain. i usually agree with u jay but this is horrible.
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#9
07-17-2006, 10:07 PM
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Re: $6: Please play this hand for me.
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[ QUOTE ] [ QUOTE ] calling pf is marginal, but for god sakes fold on the flop. villain has showed continued interest in this pot and dont look like he wants to give it up and you could be drawing dead. you dont know if any of your outs are clean and you are in no way desperate. [/ QUOTE ] Lol sure hes drawing dead with a gutshot that is good, flushdraw that is highly likely to be good and two overcards which will be good at least some of the time. How do you work out he doesn't look like hes going to give the pot up? He bet before the flop and then c-bet, hes hardly putting his life savings on his hand. I'm not saying folding is wrong but I think a shove is fine, FE coupled with all the draws we have make this +EV I'm pretty sure. [/ QUOTE ] he does not have near enough invested in this pot to chase something that even if he hits could very easily still not be the best hand. pushing the flop or turn is not marginal, its horrendous without a very very very good read on the villain. i usually agree with u jay but this is horrible. [/ QUOTE ] Why is pushing the flop horrible? My stack isn't really worth much at that point in the tourney anways. I likely have a decent amount of FE and flipping with some overlay doesn't seem that bad at this stage of the tourney.
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#10
07-17-2006, 10:10 PM
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Re: $6: Please play this hand for me.
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Hmmm I keep changing my mind on this one, pretty undecided now. Give us A of diamonds, Queen of spades whats your plan? [/ QUOTE ] a pus would be fine to me then. i just dont like to make a move when i could be drawing dead possibly. as it is he could have as many outs as you said but he could also have 0 to win the pot outright. that is prolly extreme but still possible. i like to know how many clean outs i have.
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