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Old 07-30-2005, 04:56 PM
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Default Stats on rake from popular sites

I have been looking in my PT database the amount of rake paid in different limits/sites. I used the following equation to calculate the average BB/100 paid to rake (Go to Pokertracker - Summary):


[("Total Rake"/"Players")/"Hands"]X100/"limit"
where "limit" is the amount of BB is $. So for 2/4 it's 4 etc.


These are the results (in parentheses the amount after 25% rakeback):



PTY 0.5/1 4.21 BB/100 (3.16)

PTY 0.5/1 6-max 5.84 BB/100 (4.38) Small sample

PTY 1/2 6-max 4.92 BB/100 (3.69)

PTY 2/4 2.70 BB/100 (2.04)

PS 2/4 6-max 2.67 BB/100 (N/A)

PS 3/6 6-max 2.66 BB/100 (N/A) Small sample

PTY 3/6 6-max 2.73 BB/100 (2.04)

PTY 5/10 6-max 2.04 BB/100 (1.53) Not my data.


Feel free to correct calculations and/or add data from other sites/limits. Or... direct me to the link where this has been posted before.
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Old 07-30-2005, 05:04 PM
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Default Re: Stats on rake from popular sites

By that formula Stars .25/.50 gives .094 BB/100 after 11k hands, but since pots need 10+ BB to rake it's probably not so surprising.

Edit: No, did that totally wrong. 1.1 BB/100.
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Old 07-30-2005, 05:16 PM
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Default Re: Stats on rake from popular sites

Yeah that sounds about right to me, 1BB/100
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Old 07-30-2005, 05:22 PM
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Default Re: Stats on rake from popular sites

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By that formula Stars .25/.50 gives .094 BB/100 after 11k hands, but since pots need 10+ BB to rake it's probably not so surprising.

Edit: No, did that totally wrong. 1.1 BB/100.

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Interesting. Which means that a 3bb/100 winner at Stars will be losing at Party 0.5/1 where he needs to beat 4.2BB/100 rake (Truth is that playing tight you pay less than average rake but not that much less)
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Old 07-30-2005, 09:06 PM
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Default Re: Stats on rake from popular sites

Come on guys! Nobody has to add any stats? So many sites out there. FWIW it's clear from these values that Party is killing the micro players with their rake structure. Even with "rakeback".
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Old 07-30-2005, 09:18 PM
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Default Re: Stats on rake from popular sites

if you think thats bad, try B&M
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Old 07-30-2005, 09:20 PM
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Default Re: Stats on rake from popular sites

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Come on guys! Nobody has to add any stats? So many sites out there. FWIW it's clear from these values that Party is killing the micro players with their rake structure. Even with "rakeback".

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You also need to take into account that a lot of the players at Party's micro tables are much worse than the players at the same limits on sites like Stars. This leads (generally) to increased winrates, which can at least negate the higher rake, if not allow for more profit.
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Old 07-30-2005, 10:34 PM
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Default Re: Stats on rake from popular sites

Looks good to ME - I'm bettrer then all those numbers - it's what YOU do that is the big question.

As long as I'm beating the rake - I have no problems.

Everybody whines about rake but it is SO SO much better then B&M games.

The deals is - if you can beat the rake - whats there to cry about.
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Old 07-30-2005, 10:52 PM
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Default Re: Stats on rake from popular sites

Dont care for B&M. We're talking online here. So compare Party with other sites. You prefer to donate to Party than putting more money in your pocket? That's fine.

Hopefully someone will post Stars 0.5/1 rake stats to compare.
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Old 07-31-2005, 08:48 AM
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Default Re: Stats on rake from popular sites

OMFG!

I knew it was high but not that high! Anyone has stats on absolute 1/2 and 2/4 6 max and full? Crypto?
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