(11 Speed) 6 handed, standard?

igotBlackJak · #1 07-15-2006, 12:21 AM

Aggresive/donkey BB. Is it almost a fold given that read? or still push and get called w/ K5 type stuff?

PartyPoker Speed Tournament, Big Blind is t400 (6 handed) Converter on pregopoker.com

UTG (t1676)
UTG+1 (t4068)
CO (t1354)
Button (t1583)
Hero (t2872)
BB (t8447)

Preflop: Hero is in SB with 4[img]/images/graemlins/diamond.gif[/img] A[img]/images/graemlins/club.gif[/img]
UTG folds, UTG+1 folds, CO folds, Button folds, Hero raises to t2672

ShipItHereHo · #2 07-15-2006, 12:27 AM

i would fold this. i just dont think risking my whole stack to pick up 600 chips is worth the risk if BB is calling a fairly loose range if your read is right but you do have quite a bit of FE even if he is calling fairly loose. overall i would just muck this fairly easily.

HappyHotdog · #3 07-15-2006, 12:30 AM

I push this 100% of the time Hopefully a respected player will back me up.

DevinLake · #4 07-15-2006, 12:32 AM

My guess is it is close to an unexpoitable push.

King Car · #5 07-15-2006, 12:34 AM

Against a loose caller with chips, I think the push is borderline +EV. How often I have been pushing into BB weighs in on my deicsion in this spot.

ShipItHereHo · #6 07-15-2006, 12:36 AM

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My guess is it is close to an unexpoitable push.

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are you taking into account the chances of being spite called by a huge stack thinking you are trying to steal because it was folded around? i think that makes a huge difference.

HappyHotdog · #7 07-15-2006, 12:38 AM

I dont know why having an ace in the SB when it is folded around to you is close at all. AND you have 7 BB, can some one explain to me why they think it is close?

ShipItHereHo · #8 07-15-2006, 12:41 AM

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I dont know why having an ace in the SB when it is folded around to you is close at all. AND you have 7 BB, can some one explain to me why they think it is close?

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there are 2 short stacks and i just think that the BB with such a huge stack will call a wide enough range to make this a fold.

HappyHotdog · #9 07-15-2006, 12:44 AM

its 6 handed. You have a long tim until the money, No way you can fold into the money IMO, so I say this is a clear push.

What type of hands would you push in this situation?

ShipItHereHo · #10 07-15-2006, 12:47 AM

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its 6 handed. You have a long tim until the money, No way you can fold into the money IMO, so I say this is a clear push.

What type of hands would you push in this situation?

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maybe i am results oriented but the BB being such a huge stack scares me because at the lower buy-ins i see so many ego driven calls and spite calls thinking they are getting ran over. if the BB was an avg stack i would push all day. these situations like this could ver well be a leak of mine though. i am not very confident with my opinion on this hand.