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Old 07-13-2006, 07:08 PM
SamuraiDuck SamuraiDuck is offline
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Default PP $25NL TT Set Hand - Instacall?

Villain is 29/9/1.25 over 34 hands and seems to be a semi-decent player at least.

Party Poker No-Limit Hold'em, $ Hero (6 handed) Hand History Converter Tool from FlopTurnRiver.com (Format: 2+2 Forums)

saw flop|<font color="#C00000">saw showdown</font>

CO ($19.65)
<font color="#C00000">Button ($38.04)</font>
SB ($7.55)
<font color="#C00000">Hero ($26.65)</font>
UTG ($24.30)
MP ($30.52)

Preflop: Hero is BB with T[img]/images/graemlins/club.gif[/img], T[img]/images/graemlins/spade.gif[/img]. SB posts a blind of $0.10.
<font color="#666666">1 fold</font>, MP calls $0.25, <font color="#666666">1 fold</font>, Button calls $0.25, SB (poster) completes, Hero checks.
<font color="blue">Often I would raise to $2 here, but I had been running over the game with lot's of PF raises so I decided to check here since I was OOP and there is a high likelyhood of an overcard on the flop. First mistake?</font>

Flop: ($1) 5[img]/images/graemlins/spade.gif[/img], J[img]/images/graemlins/diamond.gif[/img], T[img]/images/graemlins/heart.gif[/img] <font color="#0000FF">(4 players)</font>
SB checks, <font color="#CC3333">Hero bets $1</font>, MP calls $1, Button calls $1, SB calls $1.
<font color="blue">Standard?</font>

Turn: ($5) 7[img]/images/graemlins/diamond.gif[/img] <font color="#0000FF">(4 players)</font>
SB checks, <font color="#CC3333">Hero bets $4</font>, MP calls $4, Button calls $36.79 (All-In), SB folds, Hero calls $21.40 (All-In), MP folds.
<font color="blue">The only hand I am behind to is 98, which unfortunately is a possible holding for villain since I did not raise PF, but surely this is an insta-call taking into account that villain could have slowplayed a set of 5s on the flop or could have turned a set of 7s. Villain could even be doing this with two pair. Even if villain does have 98 then I still have 22.5% equity. Is this why I should have raised PF?</font>
River: ($71.19) 6[img]/images/graemlins/spade.gif[/img] <font color="#0000FF">(2 players, 2 all-in)</font>

Final Pot: $71.19
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Old 07-13-2006, 07:13 PM
kolotoure kolotoure is offline
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Default Re: PP $25NL Top Set Hand - Instacall?

You don't have top set and I'm calling
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Old 07-13-2006, 07:16 PM
umaveryd umaveryd is offline
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Default Re: PP $25NL Top Set Hand - Instacall?

I'd raise pre-flop.

I'd call the turn push.
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Old 07-13-2006, 07:17 PM
The White Rabbit The White Rabbit is offline
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Default Re: PP $25NL Top Set Hand - Instacall?

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Often I would raise to $2 here, but I had been running over the game with lot's of PF raises so I decided to check here since I was OOP and there is a high likelyhood of an overcard on the flop. First mistake?

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Yes. The fact that you've been running over the table should force you not to semi-bluff raise crap in this spot, not to stop you from raising your premium hands for value.

The "high likelyhood of an overcard on the flop" is another reason to raise, not to check. Your hand is very likely to be best right now, but it doesn't play well against a large field OOP, not raising here is a horrible mistake.

As played, flop is ok and turn an easy call.
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Old 07-13-2006, 07:18 PM
fish43 fish43 is offline
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Default Re: PP $25NL Top Set Hand - Instacall?

Hero doesn't have top set, since there's a jack on the board.

Why would the villian raise it so much with the nuts? He could be protecting a medium strength + draw hand. I don't think he has 98 or JJ.

I'm putting my stack in everytime. That's why they let you reload easily.
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Old 07-13-2006, 07:18 PM
SamuraiDuck SamuraiDuck is offline
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Default Re: PP $25NL TT Set Hand - Instacall?

Whoops [img]/images/graemlins/blush.gif[/img]
So if I were to have raised PF then I wouldn't be in this situation right?
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Old 07-13-2006, 07:53 PM
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Default Re: PP $25NL TT Set Hand - Instacall?

Raise preflop, and this belongs in BBV
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Old 07-13-2006, 07:56 PM
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Default Re: PP $25NL TT Set Hand - Instacall?

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Raise preflop, and this belongs in BBV

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yes.. you wouldve gotten 89 to fold.
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Old 07-13-2006, 07:59 PM
bilbo-san bilbo-san is offline
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Default Re: PP $25NL TT Set Hand - Instacall?

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Whoops [img]/images/graemlins/blush.gif[/img]
So if I were to have raised PF then I wouldn't be in this situation right?

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Well, "getting out of this situation" is sure as hell not the reason you raise pre-flop.
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Old 07-13-2006, 08:16 PM
SamuraiDuck SamuraiDuck is offline
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Default Re: PP $25NL TT Set Hand - Instacall?

Ok thanks guys, I realise I made a mistake by not raising PF here, and yea I guess it does belong in BBV.
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