nl50 KK

sluggger5x · #1 07-12-2006, 09:35 PM

How do we handle this turn after the flop call. Pots at 30 so I push, the flop is dry, and I know the turn didn't help him. Solid push, or am I just a donk who overplays overpairs??

PokerStars No-Limit Hold'em, $0.50 BB (5 handed) Hand History Converter Tool from FlopTurnRiver.com (Format: 2+2 Forums)

Hero ($49.35)
UTG ($147.15)
MP ($71.30)
Button ($48.50)
SB ($55.60)

Preflop: Hero is BB with K[img]/images/graemlins/diamond.gif[/img], K[img]/images/graemlins/heart.gif[/img].
1 fold, MP calls $0.50, Button calls $0.50, SB completes, Hero raises to $2.5, MP calls $2, Button folds, SB folds.

Flop: ($6) 8[img]/images/graemlins/spade.gif[/img], 4[img]/images/graemlins/heart.gif[/img], Q[img]/images/graemlins/club.gif[/img] (2 players)
Hero checks, MP bets $4, Hero raises to $12, MP calls $8.

Turn: ($30) 6[img]/images/graemlins/spade.gif[/img] (2 players)
Hero bets $34.85 (All-In), MP calls $34.85.

River: ($99.70) J[img]/images/graemlins/club.gif[/img] (2 players, 1 all-in)

Final Pot: $99.70

shmoosh · #2 07-12-2006, 09:40 PM

Turn push looks fine to me, a set seems very unlikely here, I'd expect to be called by something like KQ or AQ.

Leaky Game · #3 07-12-2006, 10:18 PM

Without a read I don't see anything wrong with it but if you think you have him beat your push would be to protect your hand...are we really that scared of the 6 outer with AQ...unless it's AQs? If you're looking to get it all in, wouldn't a 1/2 pot set up the river push better?

wall_st · #4 07-12-2006, 10:43 PM

Need reads to make this play legit.

mwgoblue · #5 07-12-2006, 11:01 PM

Perfectly fine. Don't be results oriented. [img]/images/graemlins/wink.gif[/img]

SoHotRightNow · #6 07-12-2006, 11:02 PM

Against Random Q. Villan, I'd say a set of 8s or 4s is more likely here than AQ or KQ. Could also be a donktastic QJ that sucked out on river.

This is a very dry board, so there is no need to push the turn to protect your hand if you are ahead. After he flat calls your flop check-raise (why not lead out?), I'm trying to get to showdown as cheaply as possible. I think checking the turn is the best play here- you already check raised him on the flop, so he will be wary of betting into you again unless he has a strong hand. If he checks behind, the river then becomes an easy value bet for however much you think he will call. If you check and he makes a meaningful bet, this becomes a fold.