Good Bluff?

mikeyworm · #1 07-12-2006, 03:16 PM

Villain is pretty TAGish. Haven't seen anything else of substance. What do you think?

Party Poker No-Limit Hold'em, $ BB (5 handed) Hand History Converter Tool from FlopTurnRiver.com (Format: 2+2 Forums)

Button ($289.20)
SB ($273.45)
BB ($234.52)
UTG ($224.37)
Hero ($210.95)

Preflop: Hero is MP with K[img]/images/graemlins/diamond.gif[/img], J[img]/images/graemlins/club.gif[/img]. SB posts a blind of $1.
1 fold, Hero raises to $8, Button calls $8, 1 fold, BB calls $6.

Flop: ($25) 3[img]/images/graemlins/spade.gif[/img], 4[img]/images/graemlins/diamond.gif[/img], 3[img]/images/graemlins/club.gif[/img] (3 players)
BB checks, Hero bets $15, Button folds, BB raises to $30, Hero raises to $85

snowbank · #2 07-12-2006, 03:20 PM

I'd wait until turn. 77-JJ type hands still call here too much.

mikeyworm · #3 07-12-2006, 03:25 PM

Don't you think that a guy who looks like a TAG has to know that I am taking a line of incredible strength? Also, I agree with your thinking about JJ and TT but I think that a good TAG (I know this is presumptuous at 200NL) will fold anything up to 99 to my flop 3-bet

Lucky · #4 07-12-2006, 03:55 PM

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I'd wait until turn. 77-JJ type hands still call here too much.

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If you wait until turn, c/r commits you for stack. rr flop is place to do it if you think he's pushing you around.

Terrabon98 · #5 07-12-2006, 04:18 PM

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Don't you think that a guy who looks like a TAG has to know that I am taking a line of incredible strength? Also, I agree with your thinking about JJ and TT but I think that a good TAG (I know this is presumptuous at 200NL) will fold anything up to 99 to my flop 3-bet

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If he's really a good TAG, then he shouldn't be retarted min-raising here...I dont think it's a bad bluff, I just think you need to make sure you are doing this against a TAG, and not aaginst some random bad player who will call you down with a pair of fours

Praetor · #6 07-12-2006, 05:05 PM

What do you do there with QQ+?

Jamougha · #7 07-12-2006, 05:18 PM

If you think he's likely to cr with air here than it's fine. You're only folding air, though.

tcorbin16 · #8 07-12-2006, 05:26 PM

Terrible.

wslee00 · #9 07-12-2006, 05:29 PM

w/ no reads, i let him have this pot

mikeyworm · #10 07-12-2006, 05:31 PM

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Terrible.

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Care to elaborate?

As for the only folding air I don't think that is true at all. Would people call with 66-TT here?