Quick Line check with AK

sofere · #1 07-12-2006, 10:13 AM

Sorry, no HH therefore no converter. I think this is pretty standard, but just wanted a little checkup.

1st hand of $22 PP Speed (Blinds 20/40)
Hero dealt AKo
UTG limps, Hero raises to 160, CO-2 calls, BB calls, UTG Folds.

Flop 2,3,5 rainbow. Hero bets 300, CO-2 Pushes, BB Folds, Hero Folds.

Mark1978 · #2 07-12-2006, 10:20 AM

I wouldn't bother betting into two villains.

Kramer · #3 07-12-2006, 10:26 AM

I won't make a c bet gainst 2 villains.Against one I'll do that.. here I'll check.

Fishing2do · #4 07-12-2006, 10:31 AM

yep what Mark said, dont bother betting into two villains. Certainly not if you are oop.
pre-flop bet I like to make 100-120. Keep the pot small, if you dont hit your hand your toast anyway, save yourself some chips.

sofere · #5 07-12-2006, 11:06 AM

Only reason I raised this particular hand was because there was also the gutshot, so if called I had some additional outs. Looking back, yeah...check seems best as I'm getting raised by any pair.

Anyone call the push though? There's a decent overlay, your at worse a coinflip, and theres also a chance he's pushing this with AJ+.

Josh_sieg · #6 07-12-2006, 11:13 AM

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Only reason I raised this particular hand was because there was also the gutshot, so if called I had some additional outs. Looking back, yeah...check seems best as I'm getting raised by any pair.

Anyone call the push though? There's a decent overlay, your at worse a coinflip, and theres also a chance he's pushing this with AJ+.

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Although it is the first hand, so the villian may be pushing something like AJ+, I don't think you could possibly call. It's too early to risk your whole tournament on a 10 outer at best.

sofere · #7 07-12-2006, 11:19 AM

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villian may be pushing something like AJ+,

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means that by definition
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10 outer at best

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this isn't true.

But you are right...it is too early for that risk. High cards pushing aren't likely enough to make this profitable.

Josh_sieg · #8 07-12-2006, 11:21 AM

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villian may be pushing something like AJ+,

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means that by definition
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10 outer at best

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this isn't true.

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If he's actually pushing AJ+ then its not true, but can you really put him on that range? I don't see how he doesn't have a pair.

AggieYank · #9 07-12-2006, 11:39 AM

I usually stick with 3xBB preflop, but I'm fine with your betting, including the c-bet with a crap flop and 2 villians. The guy who reraised all-in almost definitely has a higher pair than the board. This early in the tournament, it's not worth finding out. I'm folding this ten times out of ten.

DonkdHound · #10 07-12-2006, 11:44 AM

At this stage I'm probably checking to see what these doofus are doing... Anyone with an over pair like 66+ at this level will shove on you all day here, I check/fold this flop... maybe I am too weak at this stage.