stars 10/20, 2nd nuts

g-p · #1 07-12-2006, 01:41 AM

i know nothing abuot anyone, is this an easy raise on the river?

PokerStars No-Limit Hold'em, $20 BB (5 handed) Hand History Converter Tool from FlopTurnRiver.com (Format: 2+2 Forums)

SB ($2238)
Hero ($2048)
UTG ($4436.60)
MP ($2608)
Button ($2466)

Preflop: Hero is BB with 5[img]/images/graemlins/club.gif[/img], A[img]/images/graemlins/spade.gif[/img].
UTG calls $20, MP calls $20, Button calls $20, SB completes, Hero checks.

Flop: ($100) 9[img]/images/graemlins/club.gif[/img], 4[img]/images/graemlins/diamond.gif[/img], 3[img]/images/graemlins/diamond.gif[/img] (5 players)
SB checks, Hero bets $90, UTG calls $90, MP calls $90, Button calls $90, SB folds.

Turn: ($460) T[img]/images/graemlins/club.gif[/img] (4 players)
Hero checks, UTG checks, MP checks, Button checks.

River: ($460) 2[img]/images/graemlins/spade.gif[/img] (4 players)
Hero bets $220, UTG raises to $560, MP folds, Button folds, Hero ?

#2 07-12-2006, 01:43 AM

set/two pair seem unlikely

i think this is 56 more often than not

just call

Lyric · #3 07-12-2006, 02:16 AM

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i know nothing abuot anyone, is this an easy raise on the river?

PokerStars No-Limit Hold'em, $20 BB (5 handed) Hand History Converter Tool from FlopTurnRiver.com (Format: 2+2 Forums)

SB ($2238)
Hero ($2048)
UTG ($4436.60)
MP ($2608)
Button ($2466)

Preflop: Hero is BB with 5[img]/images/graemlins/club.gif[/img], A[img]/images/graemlins/spade.gif[/img].
UTG calls $20, MP calls $20, Button calls $20, SB completes, Hero checks.

Flop: ($100) 9[img]/images/graemlins/club.gif[/img], 4[img]/images/graemlins/diamond.gif[/img], 3[img]/images/graemlins/diamond.gif[/img] (5 players)
SB checks, Hero bets $90, UTG calls $90, MP calls $90, Button calls $90, SB folds.

Turn: ($460) T[img]/images/graemlins/club.gif[/img] (4 players)
Hero checks, UTG checks, MP checks, Button checks.

River: ($460) 2[img]/images/graemlins/spade.gif[/img] (4 players)
Hero bets $220, UTG raises to $560, MP folds, Button folds, Hero ?

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Don't bet the flop multiway with a gutshot to the second nuts.

Looks like 56. Just call.

gman06 · #4 07-12-2006, 10:38 AM

Anything but calling here is pretty bad

TheWorstPlayer · #5 07-12-2006, 10:47 AM

Flop bet is terrible. And I would probably c/r the river or lead for closer to full pot.

AlwaysAir · #6 07-12-2006, 11:18 AM

pretty easy call here.

#7 07-12-2006, 11:33 AM

Flop seems pretty questionable here, obv.

Not sure I like TWP's suggestion to C/R river though. I find this to usually be risky after the turn got checked through, because a single pair might not bet but very well might call our bet. Also, we lose a lot more money when we are up against the nuts this way.

Phresh · #8 07-12-2006, 11:40 AM

Do not bet flop. Since you got there, I'd bet this river for at least $300, sometimes more. I don't like the check-raise as I find there to be very little hands that check through this turn will bet the river and/or call a check-raise.

TheWorstPlayer · #9 07-12-2006, 11:41 AM

You lose the same if you c/r/fold or bet/call. And single pairs will pay off a bigger bet if they are calling so you might as well bet more than half pot. And good single pairs that will call a bet will almost always make a bet, too. And hands worse than one pair that will obviously not call, may take a stab if you check.

That being said, I probably bet/cr 80/20 here.

Phresh · #10 07-12-2006, 11:57 AM

You don't see a KT checking behind here, but calling a bet?