(22 reg) QQ early vs. random donkey

[igotBlackJak]

Anyone differ from this? I dont know what purpose the T415 PF raise serves... didn't want to go 3 handed with QQ though... but after a donk bet like that I have to call villains re-raise right?

PartyPoker 22 Regular, Big Blind is t100(9 handed) Converter on pregopoker.com

UTG (t1805)
UTG+1 (t1770)
MP1 (t2810)
MP2 (t967)
MP3 (t1848)
CO (t1900)
Button (t4526)
Hero (t1880)
BB (t2494)

Preflop: Hero is in SB with Q[img]/images/graemlins/spade.gif[/img] Q[img]/images/graemlins/club.gif[/img]
UTG calls t100, <font color="gray">UTG+1 folds</font>, <font color="gray">MP1 folds</font>, <font color="gray">MP2 folds</font>, <font color="gray">MP3 folds</font>, CO calls t100, Button calls t100, <font color="red">Hero raises to t415</font>, <font color="gray">BB folds</font>, <font color="red">UTG raises to t1705</font>, <font color="gray">CO folds</font>, <font color="gray">Button folds</font>, Hero calls t1340

[KPL]

I would just have pushed tha hand first time it comes to me, and be happy to pick up the 400 chips. At least I would have raised more than you did. As played your call looks fine. Soetimes UTG has FPS and limp with a high PP here, but most times he's just pissed of to not getting to see the flop cheaply...

[Count Stackula]

I would play it exacty the same...u will see junk so often here from UTG i think...

[Velocity]

Push when it gets to you. 415 is not a big enough raise here, and a big enough raise is big enough that pushing is the way to go.

[SkandarAkbar]

I make it 800 preflop and push any flop, i call the utg all day at this level it's a bad ace or weak pair far too often to turn loose of the ladies.

[morphball]

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Push when it gets to you. 415 is not a big enough raise here, and a big enough raise is big enough that pushing is the way to go.

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Is it just me, or did the OP offer UTG 2.7 to 1 on his money there?

[el_dusto]

you are correct, morph... my first instinct would be to bet 800, but then I'd be mad that I only left myself with 1k behind. so I'd prolly push it PF and wait for the call by Ax.

[Jay Riall]

Betting 800 and pushing any flop is pretty awful IMO. If you get called you've got a pot of around 2000 and 1000 behind so your committed even if it comes ace-high. A rule I read here somewhere and one that I stick to is, if a bet is more than 35% of your stack, just push.

[bluesbassman]

The raise to 415, imho, is even worse than limping. You are just asking to play a huge pot against multiple donks, which is a disaster for your hand. You are lucky someone re-raised and you ended up HU.

You need to make a big raise or just push.

[hummusx]

With QQ, do we want to push everyone out or are we value betting? We probably don't want to be 5-way, but I sure would like to grab some more chips with my premium hand. I'd raise a bit more than you did (3x blind + all bets so far = 600). Then I'd insta-call the re-raise by UTG.