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Old 07-10-2006, 10:34 PM
holla-at-yoboy holla-at-yoboy is offline
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Default 10/20nl good bluff or death sentence?

Villain has been raising his button almost every round so I call with a marginal holding in the sb. The only other time this situation occurred was when he raised from button like usual and I called with KQo in sb. Flop was KJ2 and I lead for 120. This was shown down and we split.

I have a semi-lag image which I think he's picked up on.

I figure people will either like or hate this play.

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Button ($5109.50)
Hero ($2008)
BB ($686)
UTG ($2030)
MP ($8286.40)
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Preflop: Hero is SB with J[img]/images/graemlins/club.gif[/img], K[img]/images/graemlins/heart.gif[/img].
<font color="#666666">3 folds</font>, <font color="#CC3333">Button raises to $80</font>, Hero calls $70, <font color="#666666">1 fold</font>.

Flop: ($180) Q[img]/images/graemlins/spade.gif[/img], 8[img]/images/graemlins/diamond.gif[/img], 9[img]/images/graemlins/spade.gif[/img] <font color="#0000FF">(2 players)</font>
<font color="#CC3333">Hero bets $120</font>, Button calls $120.

Turn: ($420) 4[img]/images/graemlins/heart.gif[/img] <font color="#0000FF">(2 players)</font>
Hero checks, Button checks.

River: ($420) 3[img]/images/graemlins/club.gif[/img] <font color="#0000FF">(2 players)</font>
Hero checks, <font color="#CC3333">Button bets $280</font>, <font color="#CC3333">Hero raises to $920
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Old 07-10-2006, 10:42 PM
GTL GTL is offline
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Default Re: 10/20nl good bluff or death sentence?

It certainly looks like he has a pair of queens here. Now the question is whether or not he will lay it down. Its hard to evaluate this line with so little information, but a check raise on the river is better than a lead imo.
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Old 07-10-2006, 10:45 PM
holla-at-yoboy holla-at-yoboy is offline
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Default Re: 10/20nl good bluff or death sentence?

For the record I def think he'll lay down a queen. Prob something stronger as well.
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Old 07-10-2006, 11:00 PM
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Default Re: 10/20nl good bluff or death sentence?

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For the record I def think he'll lay down a queen.

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What else are you afraid of calling? If you think he's "definately" folding a queen here (as in near 100%), then this move is clearly good.

That aside, yes, this line is generally good when people check behind on turn, looks like a whiffed c/r on turn that (correctly) checked river again. So yes, it's nice, don't overdo it tho.
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Old 07-10-2006, 11:23 PM
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Default Re: 10/20nl good bluff or death sentence?

seems wreckless. villain has to lay down pair of Queens only if he thinks you have J10. You would NEVER play a set, two pair, or anything else that beats a pair of queens like this.
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Old 07-11-2006, 12:00 AM
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Default Re: 10/20nl good bluff or death sentence?

i would sometimes play a set like this. If you would play J10 like this why wouldn't you play a set like this sometimes?
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Old 07-11-2006, 02:59 AM
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Default Re: 10/20nl good bluff or death sentence?

i like it.
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Old 07-11-2006, 03:54 AM
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Default Re: 10/20nl good bluff or death sentence?

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seems wreckless. villain has to lay down pair of Queens only if he thinks you have J10. You would NEVER play a set, two pair, or anything else that beats a pair of queens like this.

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um, you would if you were good at poker...

just a thought
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Old 07-11-2006, 04:34 AM
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Default Re: 10/20nl good bluff or death sentence?

is this how you would play a hand that beats top pair?
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Old 07-11-2006, 05:02 AM
holla-at-yoboy holla-at-yoboy is offline
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Default Re: 10/20nl good bluff or death sentence?

I would say I'm capable of it
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