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Old 07-09-2006, 04:53 PM
ManChild ManChild is offline
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Default can I get away from AK on AQ8 flop facing a minraise (PP 109)

Can I get away from AK on this flop, I dont see calling as reasonable, its either push or fold here.
I know that the guy who just called the 500 is very loose/weak and would call with any ace or any draw, possibly even a Queen

PartyPoker $109 Regular Tournament, Big Blind is t60 (9 handed) Converter on pregopoker.com

UTG (t1820)
UTG+1 (t2065)
MP1 (t3545)
Hero (t2140)
MP3 (t1685)
CO (t2090)
Button (t1830)
SB (t3045)
BB (t1780)

Preflop: Hero is in MP2 with K[img]/images/graemlins/club.gif[/img] A[img]/images/graemlins/heart.gif[/img]
<font color="gray">UTG folds</font>, <font color="gray">UTG+1 folds</font>, MP1 calls t60, <font color="red">Hero raises to t200</font>, <font color="gray">MP3 folds</font>, <font color="gray">CO folds</font>, <font color="gray">Button folds</font>, <font color="gray">SB folds</font>, BB calls t140, MP1 calls t140

Flop: (t630) 8[img]/images/graemlins/spade.gif[/img] A[img]/images/graemlins/diamond.gif[/img] Q[img]/images/graemlins/diamond.gif[/img] (3 players)
BB checks, MP1 checks, <font color="red">Hero bets t250</font>, <font color="red">BB raises to t500</font>, MP1 calls t500
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Old 07-09-2006, 04:56 PM
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Default Re: can I get away from AK on AQ8 flop facing a minraise (PP 109)

Raise more preflop. I think I shove the flop after minraise but I don't play $109s.
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Old 07-09-2006, 04:58 PM
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Default Re: can I get away from AK on AQ8 flop facing a minraise (PP 109)

lead flop for more. maybe about 450 or so. your flop bet just looks weak and may induce a bluff. being min c/r though and having a smooth caller i think this is a fold. min raises are usually signs of strength. if it were an $11 i might push.
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Old 07-09-2006, 05:39 PM
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Default Re: can I get away from AK on AQ8 flop facing a minraise (PP 109)

MP1's call makes this an easy fold.
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Old 07-11-2006, 05:42 PM
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Default Re: can I get away from AK on AQ8 flop facing a minraise (PP 109)

bet more on the flop. im not folding this, push after he raises.
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Old 07-11-2006, 05:48 PM
Jay Riall Jay Riall is offline
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Default Re: can I get away from AK on AQ8 flop facing a minraise (PP 109)

Raise to 240 pf. Bet 2/3 pot on the flop and push over the donk bet. Then again I play 11s so my advice may be utter crap. And tubasteve what would you do if that dirty prick called your sister a whore and you a dirty terrorist? Go Zidane!
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Old 07-11-2006, 05:48 PM
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Default Re: can I get away from AK on AQ8 flop facing a minraise (PP 109)

Given your read on the MP1, the 500 chip caller, you have to push over the top of the BB all-in.

The BB sees your weak bet and min raises. He's probably semi-bluffing with a weaker ace, 99-JJ, etc. He'll have AQ rarely, and when he does, you never really had a chance.
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Old 07-11-2006, 05:51 PM
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Default Re: can I get away from AK on AQ8 flop facing a minraise (PP 109)

I raise to 3-350 here PF, and lead out for 4-500 on the flop. It's an easy push for me here after the minraise, especially considering the probable dead money in there from MP1. Plus, if he overcalls your push with Ax, you can lose to the BB and still have around 800 chips to play with.
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Old 07-11-2006, 06:20 PM
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Default Re: can I get away from AK on AQ8 flop facing a minraise (PP 109)

PF: Fine.
Flop: Fine.
Fold to c/r and smooth call.
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Old 07-11-2006, 07:44 PM
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Default Re: can I get away from AK on AQ8 flop facing a minraise (PP 109)

i think you bet way too small on the flop and put yourself in a bad spot, but regardless, a c/minraise and a cold call makes this a marginal push and a marginal fold...flip a coin in this situation. had you bet a bit more and faced this action, i think this is a fold due to the more direct read youd have, but as played this can either be villain testing potential weakness from hero or villain playing top 2+
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