What to make of villain's line?

Haiku · #1 07-09-2006, 05:02 AM

Villain hasn't gotten out of line over a small sample of hands. He's running about 29/10ish. I turned top two pair, but the way he check/called the flop then led the turn really scared me. I folded the river. It felt really weak, but I just got a really bad gut feeling that I was crushed.

Party Poker No-Limit Hold'em, $ BB (6 handed) Hand History Converter Tool from FlopTurnRiver.com (Format: 2+2 Forums)

MP ($35.13)
CO ($102.50)
Button ($96.55)
SB ($32.49)
BB ($90.53)
Hero ($120.85)

Preflop: Hero is UTG with J[img]/images/graemlins/diamond.gif[/img], K[img]/images/graemlins/diamond.gif[/img]. SB posts a blind of $0.50.
Hero raises to $3, 3 folds, SB (poster) calls $2.50, BB calls $2.

Flop: ($9) 5[img]/images/graemlins/diamond.gif[/img], K[img]/images/graemlins/spade.gif[/img], 5[img]/images/graemlins/spade.gif[/img] (3 players)
SB checks, BB checks, Hero bets $6, SB folds, BB calls $6.

Turn: ($21) J[img]/images/graemlins/heart.gif[/img] (2 players)
BB bets $12, Hero calls $12.

River: ($45) 9[img]/images/graemlins/club.gif[/img] (2 players)
BB calls $69.53 (All-In), Hero folds.

Final Pot: $114.53

younghov17 · #2 07-09-2006, 05:08 AM

he has 5x usually, straight rarely, bluff very rare

carnivalhobo · #3 07-09-2006, 05:10 AM

i think he has spades sometimes.

is raising the turn and folding to a push reasonable? you will likely get a free showdown with a turn raise.

Haiku · #4 07-09-2006, 05:24 AM

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i think he has spades sometimes.

is raising the turn and folding to a push reasonable? you will likely get a free showdown with a turn raise.

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Spades or a stupidly played AK were the only hands I could see him doing this with I beat. Any meaningful turn raise (to ~$45 or so) leaves villain with like $30 left so I don't think raise/fold to shove is an option on the turn.

Keyser. · #5 07-09-2006, 10:00 AM

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I turned top two pair, but the way he check/called the flop then led the turn really scared me.

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I like the way you played this hand, but I wanted to ask why a c/c on the flop and then a turn lead scares you? IMO, that line is generally made with a hand like 88, especially on a board like this. Basically the villain can't really lead the flop or c/r the flop, so he instead leads the turn to test your c-bet and find out if his hand is good.

I'm not saying he had that hand here, especially not b/c he pushed the river, I'm just saying I think in general the c/c flop, lead turn line is often a weakish hand.