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Old 07-08-2006, 02:06 AM
etizzle etizzle is offline
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Default but he makes it so cheeeap

villain is somewhat loose-passive preflop at 35/7, havent seen him make too many moves. The one big pot he played he called a turn minraise with QT on AJQQ board and openpushed a T river, getting called by KT.

whats my play here? Comments on flop are welcome I guess but I don't see how an argument could be made for anything but calling.

Party Poker No-Limit Hold'em, $ BB (6 handed) Hand History Converter Tool from FlopTurnRiver.com (Format: 2+2 Forums)

saw flop|<font color="#C00000">saw showdown</font>

BB ($1950)
UTG ($1382.86)
Hero ($3408)
CO ($1453.50)
Button ($1356.24)
SB ($660.40)

Preflop: Hero is MP with K[img]/images/graemlins/diamond.gif[/img], K[img]/images/graemlins/club.gif[/img]. SB posts a blind of $10.
<font color="#666666">1 fold</font>, <font color="#CC3333">Hero raises to $77</font>, CO calls $77, <font color="#666666">3 folds</font>.

Flop: ($184) Q[img]/images/graemlins/heart.gif[/img], T[img]/images/graemlins/spade.gif[/img], J[img]/images/graemlins/heart.gif[/img] <font color="#0000FF">(2 players)</font>
<font color="#CC3333">Hero bets $155</font>, <font color="#CC3333">CO raises to $310</font>, Hero calls $155.

Turn: ($804) J[img]/images/graemlins/club.gif[/img] <font color="#0000FF">(2 players)</font>
Hero checks, <font color="#CC3333">CO bets $240</font>
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Old 07-08-2006, 02:48 AM
Parlay Slow Parlay Slow is offline
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Default Re: but he makes it so cheeeap

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Comments on flop are welcome I guess but I don't see how an argument could be made for anything but calling.


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Ok I'll bite.

You are out of position heads up and your shortstacked opponent has put over a quarter of his stack in the middle and you have KK on a QJT two-tone flop.
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Old 07-08-2006, 03:36 AM
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Default Re: but he makes it so cheeeap

yes but almost immediate odds + some small chance he will shutdown with QJ if a T turns, or QT if a J turns, or AQ seem to make it a call IMO.
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Old 07-08-2006, 03:51 AM
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Default Re: but he makes it so cheeeap

call as played (yes I can still imagine check/folding river on a blank if that isn't clear to someone, despite pot being 1.2k and him having 800 left, depending on a lot of factors.)

And yes, you can definately make arguments for raising flop against some players, depending on history and image. Against most ones, and most of the time, I def just call though.

Calling a guy w/ 75bb a shortstack is pushing it a bit, btw.
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