KTo capped preflop

Silverback · #1 07-07-2006, 07:38 AM

For a second I thought about folding. Although I had seen the intial limper reraise marginal hand in one other hand.

Is this an auto call even to a cap? Under what circumstances would you consider folding?

No other reads as I was new to table.

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Preflop: Hero is MP with K[img]/images/graemlins/spade.gif[/img], T[img]/images/graemlins/club.gif[/img].
UTG calls, Hero raises, Button calls, 1 fold, BB 3-bets, UTG caps. Hero???

Final Pot: 5.75 BB

PokerBob · #2 07-07-2006, 07:42 AM

is BB retarded? if not, let it go.

sharpie · #3 07-07-2006, 07:48 AM

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let it go.

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Nick C · #4 07-07-2006, 08:05 AM

It's frustrating, but I've been making the raise-fold preflop play a lot (more than I'd care to) lately.

And KTo is one of the hands I'd do that with.

Silverback · #5 07-07-2006, 09:50 AM

Ok, well this is the reason I asked, as when i took down a big pot I still had to question whether I had been fortunate. Obviously plenty of flops could have left me dominated and with 4 in the aggressive pot wrong decisions could have been costly.

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Preflop: Hero is MP with K[img]/images/graemlins/spade.gif[/img], T[img]/images/graemlins/club.gif[/img].
UTG calls, Hero raises, Button calls, 1 fold, BB 3-bets, UTG caps, Hero calls, Button calls, BB calls.

Flop: (16.50 SB) J[img]/images/graemlins/spade.gif[/img], Q[img]/images/graemlins/heart.gif[/img], 9[img]/images/graemlins/club.gif[/img] (4 players)
BB bets, UTG raises, Hero 3-bets, Button calls, BB caps, UTG calls, Hero calls, Button calls.

Turn: (16.25 BB) 7[img]/images/graemlins/club.gif[/img] (4 players)
BB bets, UTG raises, Hero 3-bets, Button calls, BB caps, UTG calls, Hero calls, Button calls.

River: (32.25 BB) 4[img]/images/graemlins/club.gif[/img] (4 players)
BB checks, UTG checks, Hero bets, Button folds, BB calls, UTG calls.

Final Pot: 35.25 BB

Results below: 
BB has As Ad (one pair, aces).
UTG has Qs Kh (one pair, queens).
Hero has Ks Tc (straight, king high).
Outcome: Hero wins 35.25 BB.

allaboutmyfetti · #6 07-07-2006, 09:55 AM

Fold pf when it comes back aroudn to you. Reverse implied odds sux0rz

Poliorcetes · #7 07-07-2006, 10:20 AM

Yes, KTo is a horrible spot, but the cold-call combined with an UTG limp/re-raise leave me feeling that it might not be as bad as if it had just gone raise/re-raise/cap. Then I would be advocating to let it go. In this spot I'd hate to fold and see the LRR showdown 78s or whatever.

Scary_Tiger · #8 07-07-2006, 10:25 AM

Fold preflop, rest of hand is fine.

ninenine_zoe · #9 07-07-2006, 10:43 AM

to OP, i fold this one preflop when its 2 back 2 me. KTo is too less of a hand.

but i have another question: BB has surely overplayed his hand.
what would have been the right play?
call the flop 3bet and c/f the turn when its two back to him (thats what i would prefer)? or cap the flop, bet/fold the turn?

jba · #10 07-07-2006, 11:47 AM

BB has As Ad (one pair, aces).
UTG has Qs Kh (one pair, queens).
Hero has Ks Tc (straight, king high).

so there's like two good flops for you. the one you got and TTx. easy preflop fold.