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Old 07-06-2006, 03:52 AM
KAknight KAknight is offline
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Default Flopped 2 pair, turn pairs board.

I completely donked this hand. What should I have done?

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Preflop: Hero is MP1 with 3[img]/images/graemlins/club.gif[/img], 4[img]/images/graemlins/club.gif[/img].
UTG calls, UTG+1 calls, Hero calls, <font color="#666666">1 fold</font>, CO calls, <font color="#CC3333">Button raises</font>, <font color="#666666">1 fold</font>, BB calls, UTG calls, UTG+1 calls, Hero calls, CO calls.

Flop: (12.50 SB) 3[img]/images/graemlins/heart.gif[/img], 4[img]/images/graemlins/heart.gif[/img], 9[img]/images/graemlins/spade.gif[/img] <font color="#0000FF">(6 players)</font>
BB checks, <font color="#CC3333">UTG bets</font>, UTG+1 calls, <font color="#CC3333">Hero raises</font>, CO calls, Button calls, BB folds, UTG calls, UTG+1 calls.

Turn: (11.25 BB) 9[img]/images/graemlins/diamond.gif[/img] <font color="#0000FF">(5 players)</font>
UTG checks, UTG+1 checks, <font color="#CC3333">Hero bets</font>, CO calls, Button calls, UTG calls, UTG+1 folds.

River: (15.25 BB) 4[img]/images/graemlins/diamond.gif[/img] <font color="#0000FF">(4 players)</font>
UTG checks, <font color="#CC3333">Hero bets</font>, CO folds, Button folds, <font color="#CC3333">UTG raises</font>, Hero calls.

Final Pot: 19.25 BB
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Old 07-06-2006, 04:10 AM
Zeldark Zeldark is offline
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Default Re: Flopped 2 pair, turn pairs board.

Unfortunate I think. With 6 players it's not too unlikely one of them has a 9, but since know one shows continued aggression on the turn it seems okay, but some one could be bagging. The 4 is a mixed blessing of sorts because some one with a 9 now has the nuts, but if they have a 9 you were losing on the turn anyways. IMO, unless I was feeling extra lucky I'd check/call the river. Your hand is good, but easily second best. My 2 cents. Or perhaps he is just a little too bluff happy, that is a scary board.
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Old 07-06-2006, 10:55 AM
Didelo Didelo is offline
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Default Re: Flopped 2 pair, turn pairs board.

Not sure about the preflop limp - maybe if you have a read that the table is loose and passive (which it turns out to be).

Flop is great. With the raise in front of you, you're happy if they fold and you're happy if they call. You beat plenty of hands that would lead a flop like this. No reraise is good news.

That 9 on the turn is a pain in the neck as it counterfeits your 2 pair. On the flop you were ahead of overpairs and top pair. You're now behind to both, your hand being worth less than 55. However, when it's checked to you, you have to bet.

Things brighten up on the river and again, as you're checked to you have the bet. I suspect UTG's check-raise is bad news but the pot is too big to fold.

NH, in other words. I'd play it the same.
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Old 07-06-2006, 11:22 AM
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Default Re: Flopped 2 pair, turn pairs board.

*grunch*

I think you played it fine. I personally don't like playing the low suited connectors, even with a couple of limpers in front, at least not from middle position.
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Old 07-06-2006, 12:02 PM
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Default Re: Flopped 2 pair, turn pairs board.

looks good to me.

5 opponents, what's the probability one has a 9 on the river (10 cards to consider, 46 cards left in deck)?
P(at least one 9) = P(one 9) + P(two 9's) = 1 - 36*35/(46*45) = 39% chance. So don't be afraid of the 9.
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Old 07-06-2006, 05:37 PM
VickreyAuction VickreyAuction is offline
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Default Re: Flopped 2 pair, turn pairs board.

I would fold preflop. Postflop is probably fine, but if I got called anywhere on the turn I think I would check/fold any blank river.
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Old 07-06-2006, 06:18 PM
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I would fold preflop. Postflop is probably fine, but if I got called anywhere on the turn I think I would check/fold any blank river.

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folding preflop at a loose table like this would be bad.
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