Aces in a family pot 2/4 NL

[Bigfoot]

I've only played a few orbits so I don't have any great reads on anyone. (Forgot to mention this was full ring and effective stacks are 100bb)

Preflop: 2 Limpers infront of me and I make it 20 with AA in MP. I get 3 callers behind and both limpers call as well. 6 of us to the flop.

Flop: 9 [img]/images/graemlins/spade.gif[/img] 7 [img]/images/graemlins/diamond.gif[/img] 5 [img]/images/graemlins/club.gif[/img]

It's checked to me and I 3/4 pot it. Button instacalls as does one of the limpers infront of me.

Turn is the 2 [img]/images/graemlins/heart.gif[/img] completing the rainbow. EP checks, I check, Button immediately pots it. EP folds, I call.

River: 2 [img]/images/graemlins/club.gif[/img]
I check and Villain pots it. I....

I've been thinking about this hand and I really think I should've bet the turn, but at the same time this board is so drawless. I was pretty lost on the river because I couldn't put him on a hand.

[surfinillini]

I see nothing gained by check/calling turn

check/fold

or c/r depending on reads

---and pot the flop/raise more PF

[psuasskicker]

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I've been thinking about this hand and I really think I should've bet the turn, but at the same time this board is so drawless. I was pretty lost on the river because I couldn't put him on a hand.

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Two villains and while it might be drawless, anyone with pairs are drawing for 5 outs. Let's take a completely plausible situation on this flop...
You: A[img]/images/graemlins/spade.gif[/img] A[img]/images/graemlins/diamond.gif[/img]
EP: 7[img]/images/graemlins/spade.gif[/img] 6[img]/images/graemlins/spade.gif[/img]
Button: T[img]/images/graemlins/diamond.gif[/img] 9[img]/images/graemlins/diamond.gif[/img]
You're less than 43% to win this pot, and I think it's a disaster to let something like this possibly check through when the pot is $390 and you've got less than a PSB left. Especially when that turn was so favorable to you.

This pot is for sure big enough to be worth a pickup. I think if someone "slowplayed" their hand on the flop, they deserve to win, cause that's a horrible flop to slowplay, especially with so many callers.

I'm moving in on the turn.

As played: Isn't the turn an all in for you? I'm not folding...good for him if he's beat me.

- C -

[DrPublo]

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...at the same time this board is so drawless. I was pretty lost on the river because I couldn't put him on a hand.

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Uh what? All those low connected hands hit this flop, potentially in a big way. A hand like 67 or 89 has 9 immediate outs, and more if you count the bluff equity (any turn that helps this board should fold out an overpair).

I pretty much hate the turn c/c. If you decide villain is getting frisky with a lower overpair or a pair+gutshot type hand (most likely, IMO), then you need to pull the trigger on the turn and c/r all in.

As played, your river c/c also sucks. When you c/c the turn, you're saying you have the best hand. On the river you catch up against something like 97...I really think you need to c/r all in here (given that you didnt already on the turn).

The Doc

[smartalecc5]

You are NOT folding. Call or go all in. I like what Publo said.

[Bigfoot]

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Uh what? All those low connected hands hit this flop, potentially in a big way. A hand like 67 or 89 has 9 immediate outs, and more if you count the bluff equity (any turn that helps this board should fold out an overpair).

I pretty much hate the turn c/c. If you decide villain is getting frisky with a lower overpair or a pair+gutshot type hand (most likely, IMO), then you need to pull the trigger on the turn and c/r all in.

As played, your river c/c also sucks. When you c/c the turn, you're saying you have the best hand. On the river you catch up against something like 97...I really think you need to c/r all in here (given that you didnt already on the turn).

The Doc

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Sorry for being unclear with what I meant by being drawless was with regard to the final board. What I meant was that no draw actually got there on the turn or river that wasn't already there on the flop (ie. 68). Anyway I didn't C/C the river (I left out my river action in the original post). I CR'd the river all in and he insta-folded. I agree with what you said about my turn play. I think the C/C was terrible and I should've CR'd all in there.