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Old 07-02-2006, 09:10 PM
LoaferGee LoaferGee is offline
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Default Blind defense floppin 2nd pair

Villain is 30/18/2 over 50 hands roughly.

Party Poker 5.00/10.00 Hold'em <font color="#0000FF">(5 handed)</font> link

Preflop: Hero is BB with K[img]/images/graemlins/club.gif[/img], 6[img]/images/graemlins/diamond.gif[/img].
<font color="#666666">1 folds</font>, <font color="#CC3333">Button raises</font>, <font color="#666666">1 folds</font>, Hero calls.

Flop: (4.40 SB) 7[img]/images/graemlins/diamond.gif[/img], A[img]/images/graemlins/diamond.gif[/img], K[img]/images/graemlins/spade.gif[/img] <font color="#0000FF">(2 players)</font>
Hero checks, <font color="#CC3333">Button bets</font>, Hero calls.

Turn: (3.20 BB) 5[img]/images/graemlins/diamond.gif[/img] <font color="#0000FF">(2 players)</font>
Hero checks, <font color="#CC3333">Button bets</font>, Hero calls.

River: (5.20 BB) 9[img]/images/graemlins/spade.gif[/img] <font color="#0000FF">(2 players)</font>
<font color="#CC3333">Hero bets</font>, <font color="#CC3333">Button raises</font>, Hero folds.
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Old 07-02-2006, 09:14 PM
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Default Re: Blind defense floppin 2nd pair

I'd check/call the river. We might induce another bluff, and I don't really like the idea of c/c c/c b/fing against this villain.
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Old 07-02-2006, 09:16 PM
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Default Re: Blind defense floppin 2nd pair

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I'd check/call the river. We might induce another bluff, and I don't really like the idea of c/c c/c b/fing against this villain.

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Yeah the donk/folds on the river always feel wrong for me but I just hate the idea of missing value from all the pairs he could have that he'll check through.
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Old 07-02-2006, 09:18 PM
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Default Re: Blind defense floppin 2nd pair

check/fold - I don't think he bets a worse hand very often here.
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Old 07-02-2006, 09:21 PM
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Default Re: Blind defense floppin 2nd pair

why not donk the turn?
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Old 07-02-2006, 09:24 PM
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Default Re: Blind defense floppin 2nd pair

Assuming he has the same button range as me (I have a similar PFR%), he probably doesn't have many 7x 5x hands and might not pay off with them all if he did. So that leaves mostly pockets and 9x. However I could see him firing a 3rd barrel putting us on Q[img]/images/graemlins/diamond.gif[/img]T or something, or maybe hoping we'd fold a weak pair.

A good thing about your line is you probably won't get raised by better kings, and maybe weak aces.
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Old 07-02-2006, 11:35 PM
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Default Re: Blind defense floppin 2nd pair

If I decided to show down, I think I'd just check-call.
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Old 07-02-2006, 11:38 PM
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Default Re: Blind defense floppin 2nd pair

I def. like check/call or check/fold. It's possible but not likely he'll call w/ a worse hand. Also he may save you a bet by checking behind a stronger K.
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Old 07-03-2006, 12:00 AM
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Default Re: Blind defense floppin 2nd pair

i'm almost always check/calling the river

reasonable villains could bet TT-QQ and even some 9x hands here. and other villains will carry their bluff too far.
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Old 07-03-2006, 09:48 AM
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Default Re: Blind defense floppin 2nd pair

I think he is more likely to bet a worse hand on this river than he is to call with one.
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