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Old 06-29-2006, 05:37 PM
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Default A New Challenge: Self Defense

The three seeds of this challenge:

1: I was going through the posts today like any other. When I came across Grandma Stabone's Setting Goals To Improve Your Play. It's a good thread but there is one response in it that really got me thinking. It was by davelin Here.

2: Wookie's been known to Call Out on bad advice (or good) to make them defend their position.

3: A while ago Boz told some noob who asked about posting marginal hands "You couldn't find marginal in a bucket, post hands you think you played well" (paraphrase)

All this added up to a new challenge idea: Defending your life.

This can happen in many ways but here's the basics
- Take a hand whether you think you played it well or not, but ones you think you played well will be more fun.
- Explain every action on every street and why it was a good one. Like you were talking to a novice who understood the concepts but needed help with the application of those concepts. Use basic knowledge, EV calc, reads, book knowledge, hand ranges for villans, alien technology, whatever.
- Give it to someone else, who will do their best to rip it appart, then you defend it. Or put it on the board and defend it.

Sure some of us put up our thought processes through a hand. But no one fully describes every action and the reasoning for that action.

The point here is to have others point out where we may have a gap in our thought process. We may find it ourselves just by writting our original defense. As any good debate teacher will tell you, offten defending the indeffensable position brings greater light to the flaws of that position.

So if you feel up to the challenge then hunt down that hand and start your original defense. I don't think we should fill this thread with hand posts cause no one will come here to argue it. So post them in the open forum and link them here. Put a note on the end of it like (Self Defense) or (SD) so that people know you are looking to be called out, and so those who want to avoid what may be more cut and dry hands can skip the posts. If you can fully defend your cut and dry hands that's a great accomplishment, but when you can fully defend your marginal hands then you will really grow.

If you get really bold try and do this for a full session (100 hands or so) and find someone on the boards who will discuss it with you. Or a collection of 10-15 hands you played and discuss it with someone. Do all this off the boards cause no one likes threads with 100 hands. Keep your self-defense posts to one hand at a time. But try the session defense with a friend.

So who's ready to deffend?

(post a link to all SD threads here so those really looking to be nits can just come here and find some good threads to do it on. Plus that will bump the challenge so others see it)
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Old 06-29-2006, 06:02 PM
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Default Re: A New Challenge: Self Defense

*self defending...*
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Old 06-29-2006, 06:04 PM
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Default Re: A New Challenge: Self Defense

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*self defending...*

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You use your right or left hand for that? <duck>
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Old 06-29-2006, 07:20 PM
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Default Re: A New Challenge: Self Defense

This is the worst idea ever (See what I did there? [img]/images/graemlins/grin.gif[/img])

I think it's a good idea and it would help me out tremendously. I'll try to get a good hand tonight to try it out.
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Old 06-29-2006, 07:26 PM
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Default Re: A New Challenge: Self Defense

Can I defend why I folded 72o UTG
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Old 06-29-2006, 07:52 PM
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Default Re: A New Challenge: Self Defense

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Can I defend why I folded 72o UTG

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I don't know, can you [img]/images/graemlins/smile.gif[/img]
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Old 06-29-2006, 08:03 PM
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Default Re: A New Challenge: Self Defense

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Can I defend why I folded 72o UTG

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I don't know, can you [img]/images/graemlins/smile.gif[/img]

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Yes.
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Old 07-02-2006, 02:11 PM
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Default Re: A New Challenge: Self Defense

BUMP! OH YEA! This was an awesome post that got lost in the depths of the pages.
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Old 07-02-2006, 03:30 PM
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OK I'll do first: Exhibit "A" for the Defense
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Old 07-03-2006, 12:53 PM
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Default Re: A New Challenge: Self Defense

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OK I'll do first: Exhibit "A" for the Defense

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Very nice, everyone should do this!
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