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Old 06-26-2006, 02:13 AM
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Default 6-max tough pre-flop decision

$30+3 6-seated tournament. 73 of 152 remaining, average chip stack ~3100, 30-60 blinds.
Hand #32921293-75 at Mon1amA-005 (No Limit tournament Hold'em)
Started at 26/Jun/06 01:59:47

UTG is at seat 0 with 1620.
MP is at seat 1 with 990.
CO is at seat 2 with 2200.
Hero is at seat 3 with 1420.
SB is at seat 4 with 4150.
BB is at seat 5 with 1895.

Hero: A[img]/images/graemlins/heart.gif[/img] K[img]/images/graemlins/diamond.gif[/img]

Pre-flop:

1 fold. MP raises to 120. 1 folds.
Hero calls. SB re-raises to 1930.
1 folds. MP goes all-in for 990.
Hero should?

SB has been aggressive to date but not unreasonable with his showdowns. MP has been loose-weak. I called the original minraise hoping to end up all in on the flop versus MP's c-bet, afraid that MP would fold to the PF raise. But SB's push and the call puts me in a trickier position.
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Old 06-26-2006, 02:17 AM
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Default Re: 6-max tough pre-flop decision

push the first time pf
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Old 06-26-2006, 02:36 AM
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Default Re: 6-max tough pre-flop decision

Yes I agree push the first time makes things easier. Given than I didn't what would you do now?
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Old 06-26-2006, 02:43 AM
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Default Re: 6-max tough pre-flop decision

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I called the original minraise hoping to end up all in on the flop versus MP's c-bet, afraid that MP would fold to the PF raise.

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That was a mistake.
This is UB, right? Hit the "Bet pot" button when it gets to you the first time. Then if someone raises do it again until you're all in.
In 6 max tourneys I pretty much never fold QQ or AK preflop.
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Old 06-26-2006, 02:53 AM
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I called the original minraise hoping to end up all in on the flop versus MP's c-bet, afraid that MP would fold to the PF raise.

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That was a mistake.
This is UB, right? Hit the "Bet pot" button when it gets to you the first time. Then if someone raises do it again until you're all in.
In 6 max tourneys I pretty much never fold QQ or AK preflop.

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I conceed the first play was wrong (it wasn't my usual line, and obviously was bad). But given that does your never fold AK mean that you are for a call in this spot?
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Old 06-26-2006, 04:51 AM
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Default Re: 6-max tough pre-flop decision [results]

I called (with my A[img]/images/graemlins/heart.gif[/img] K[img]/images/graemlins/diamond.gif[/img]).

SB had K[img]/images/graemlins/heart.gif[/img] A[img]/images/graemlins/diamond.gif[/img]
MP had K[img]/images/graemlins/club.gif[/img] T[img]/images/graemlins/diamond.gif[/img]

The board ended up Q[img]/images/graemlins/club.gif[/img] 3[img]/images/graemlins/diamond.gif[/img] 4[img]/images/graemlins/diamond.gif[/img] 6[img]/images/graemlins/heart.gif[/img] 2[img]/images/graemlins/diamond.gif[/img]

for a chop between me and the SB.

But while I felt I was ahead of MP range I wasn't convinced I was ahead of SB's range and the results don't let me know one way or another.
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Old 06-26-2006, 05:39 AM
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Default Re: 6-max tough pre-flop decision [results]

Here's a guideline:

AK + short stack = ARR IN
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Old 06-26-2006, 06:31 AM
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push the first time pf

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The guy made it 120. I am not pushing for 1400. That looks too much like AK. People overbet push with AK because they are afraid to play it postflop, and they tip their hand.

I would reraise pot initially, and be ready to put the rest in.

Flat calling with AK in 6-max is too tight.
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Old 06-26-2006, 06:39 AM
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I've turned into a turbo sng donkey.
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